Re: Blank message bodies ... more
From: Robert Aldwinckle (robald_at_techemail.com)
Date: 03/12/04
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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 11:18:54 -0500
> So, the Content.IE5 is really there, but it doesn't show in the Explorer
> view.
Kenny,
You didn't refer to the information I gave in the sentence which starts
>> Append \Content.IE5\
and finishes
>> (It takes a few seconds to show up
You only (perhaps) refer to my final caveat that perhaps you would need
to ensure that Explorer can show hidden files.
> 2) Were you saying that Explorer only ever sees pseudo-folders?
Yes, usually. That is what I meant by:
>> it won't be shown to you unless you force it to be shown.
I guess "append" was a bit ambiguous. I don't know if you will see it
for example by pasting that string in after the normal TIF path that is
already in the Address bar. I actually type it and the AutoComplete
dropdown list doesn't show up until I type the final slash.
The only other considerations that I can think of are that AutoComplete
can be disabled in various ways. FWIW I have all of the AutoComplete
settings in the Content tab's AutoComplete settings dialog checked
and I also have Use Inline AutoComplete checked in the Advanced tab.
Another possibility is that I may have been running without Explorer.exe
since I have a frequent problem with both my Start menu and Taskbar
and consequently have just got used to running without them by using
Task Manager instead.
Nope. Either way, as soon as I type the *first* slash I get an AutoComplete
dropdown box. At the moment I happen to have a lot of stuff in the TIF
so it was really slow. Since you have cleared your TIF I would expect it
to display more quickly.
Hmm... maybe we don't have to rely on AutoComplete anyway.
Try this instead. Append the \Content.IE5\ and then press Enter.
When I do that I can see the TIF's implementation files and folders
in a standard Explorer view.
HTH
Robert
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"Kenny M" <nobody@nospam.nowhere> wrote in message
news:eY7hk9CCEHA.2840@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Robert,
>
> Thanks for the explanation. I followed both the suggested methods, Command
> Prompt and Explorer Address Bar, but now I'm really confused.
> First, the Command Prompt results:
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
> (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Owner>cd /d C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local
> Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files>dir/ad/s
> /p
> Volume in drive C is HP_PAVILION
> Volume Serial Number is XXXX-XXXX [hidden by me]
>
> Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temporary
> Internet
> Files
>
> 10/11/2003 05:13 PM <DIR> .
> 10/11/2003 05:13 PM <DIR> ..
> 11/03/2004 11:18 AM <DIR> Content.IE5
> 0 File(s) 0 bytes
>
> Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temporary
> Internet
> Files\Content.IE5
>
> 11/03/2004 11:18 AM <DIR> .
> 11/03/2004 11:18 AM <DIR> ..
> 12/03/2004 08:06 PM <DIR> 6Z01UFMR
> 12/03/2004 07:41 PM <DIR> EL2B21QV
> 12/03/2004 07:41 PM <DIR> SXMVWXE7
> 12/03/2004 07:41 PM <DIR> WXUBK92V
> 0 File(s) 0 bytes
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> So, the Content.IE5 is really there, but it doesn't show in the Explorer
> view. I have "Show hidden files and folders" checked and "Hide protected
> operating system files" unchecked. I'm sure I used to be able to see it,
> and I can still see it for User Accounts other than "Owner". I have been
> using both IE > Tools > Internet Options > General > Delete Files, and Disk
> Cleanup, to clear the TIF. Questions, if you've got the patience:
>
> 1) Do you know why the Content.IE5 icon disappeared?
> 2) Were you saying that Explorer only ever sees pseudo-folders?
>
> TIA.
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Rl2hqsBEHA.624@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> "Kenny M" <nobody@nospam.nowhere> wrote in message
> news:eRZdptmBEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Robert,
> >
> > Thanks for your response. The message below is from the
> > "microsoft.public.windowsxp.perform_maintain" NG:
> >
> > "patricia ann shepherd" <printer> wrote in message
> > news:4F840F26-7BD7-440F-BF28-1436F9115B7A@microsoft.com...
>
> See previous subthread for discussion about this particular message
> and why it is blank. This subthread will be a bit more tutorial on using
> the TIF.
>
> ...
> > Cleared the TIF, found the file, Right Click > Properties shows the name
> > as:
> >
> > view-source:mhtml:mid://00000211/
> >
> > BTW, there isn't a Content.IE5 in my TIF, but I'd swear there used to be.
> > Am I supposed to have it still ???
>
> It's still there but you have to realize that as it is part of the
> implementation
> of the TIF "pseudo" folder it won't be shown to you unless you force
> it to be shown.
>
> For example, in your Explorer window's Address bar right now
> (i.e., after Settings... View Files...) you have the path to the TIF.
> What the View of the pseudo folder is showing you is a combination
> of information from the index.dat and the files contained in the other
> subfolders. Append \Content.IE5\ to that path and you should see
> AutoComplete showing you the index.dat and the other subdirectories.
> (It takes a few seconds to show up and you probably need to set Folder
> Options View to "Show hidden files and folders" to see all of it since,
> e.g., desktop.ini is normally marked hidden.)
>
> More conventionally you can see it using a command window.
> Before switching from the Explorer window copy the path
> to the TIF to clipboard (Alt-d,Ctrl-c). Switch to your command window
> and build the chdir command to the TIF by typing in the command line:
> cd /d
> (Don't hit Enter yet and be aware that there is at least one trailing space
> after that switch.) Paste the path after it (Alt-Space,E,P) and press
> Enter.
>
> So now you can see the Content.IE5 subfolder with
> dir/ad
> or if you want to see the rest
> dir/ad/s/p
> (I'm suggesting the pause option so you can press Ctrl-c to cancel
> the useless second level recursion after the Content.IE5 subdirectories
> have been listed.)
>
> You could have done your search for your filename from there.
> E.g.
> dir/s 00000211
> would have shown you what subdirectory it was in.
>
> Then (what I was hinting at in my reply to Len) you could go back
> to the Explorer view of the TIF and drill right down to that subfolder
> and file. Then IE would render it perhaps better than OE would.
> However, as we have seen your file was empty and Len's wasn't
> the HTML source that we were expecting. ;o
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert
> ---
>
>
> >
> > "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:e8%23PFefBEHA.2500@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > There is the occasional NG post which shows on my OE
> > > > with a blank message body.
> > >
> > > Please post the Message-ID of any news message which gives you
> > > the symptom.
> > >
> > > What are your Fonts... and International settings...
> > > Have you tried experimenting with different fonts?
> > >
> > > Also font related:
> > >
> > > See if Ctrl-F2 lets you see anything and if not what is in the file
> > > that that command creates. BTW the same file can be found in the TIF
> > > and then rendered by IE; so that could be a useful comparison too.
> > >
> > > See if View, Text Size, Fixed lets you see anything.
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > >
> > > "Kenny M" <nobody@nospam.nowhere> wrote in message
> > > news:eDFMqrYBEHA.628@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > I don't know whether this is relevant to all the other posts
> concerning
> > > > blank/empty message bodies, but FWIW ...
> > > >
> > > > There is the occasional NG post which shows on my OE with a blank
> > message
> > > > body.
> > > > In each case the message appears to have been encoded as:
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Utf-8"
> > > > and the OE Active Title Bar, which usually shows {Subject}, shows
> > instead:
> > > > {Subject} - Unicode (UTF-8)
> > > >
> > > > Do you think this might be related to the other blank message body
> > > > problems, and if not, is there some way to fix this on my machine? I
> > can
> > > > see all my e-mail and 99% of NG posts.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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