Re: News entries diappear after a while - header expiration?
From: Robert Aldwinckle (robald_at_techemail.com)
Date: 03/12/04
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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 22:47:49 -0500
> What you mean by expired off the server?
Turn on troubleshooting logging for news. (Alt-T,O,Ctrl-Backtab,w)
Then watch the NNTP [rx] 211 messages you get for that newsgroup.
If the server sends (e.g.) 211 aaa bbbbb ccccc <newsgroup name>
then any messages that you have which are numbered less than
bbbbb will be deleted from your cache. A consequence of this is
that if your server makes a mistake and sends an unnecessarily high
bbbbb then that can make OE delete an unnecessarily high number
of messages. If you discover that your server is prone to making
such "mistakes" then you may want to minimize the frequency that you
connect with it (to reduce the probability of connecting when it makes a
mistake.) You could do that by using a Synchronization command
and otherwise working primarily offline using your cache.
You can get a rough idea of what numbers you have by turning off
Group Messages by Conversation (Alt-V,V,G) and sorting by Sent
(Alt-V,B,Sent); then use Properties, Details to see if there is an Xref:
header. The Xref: header embeds the message sequence number in it.
Note that this sort depends on the accuracy of the posters' clocks
so it is usual to see the sequence shuffled somewhat, especially
if some of the posters are using the wrong timezone setting.
If you don't want messages deleted that way you would have to copy
the messages from the newsgroup folder to your own local copy of it.
HTH
Robert Aldwinckle
--- "Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote in message news:e8xNtX3BEHA.3848@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > What you mean by expired off the server? In that particular NG msg. do > NOT seem to expire. Some messages there are as old as from 2001, most > of which I also see, but for some strange reason, some other messages > (seemingly randomly choosen ones) are NOT displayed to me any more, > even though I know that they are/were there (of one - about two weeks > ago - I even still have a hardcopy). And that otherwise invisible msg. > is displayed to me when I enter it's msg. id, but I don't see that > msg. in the normal list of messages. > > Michael > > "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP IE/OE" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in > message news:%23Tx5kM2BEHA.712@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > "Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote in > > message news:uksIRh1BEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl > > > Hi all, > > > > > > in some news group I asked why some messages seem to disappear > after a > > > while. Someone responded by saying, that OE has some "header > > > expiration" feature. Is that so? And if so, can one disable or > adapt > > > this feature? Or what other reason may cause certain appends to > not be > > > shown any more? > > > > > > I have OE set to "Show all messages" and there are no message > rules > > > enabled other than highlighting some subject line keywords. > > > > > > Michael > > > > > >>> Are there threads being deleted from this NG? If so: why and > based > > >>> on what criteria? > > >> > > >> No. I see from your headers that you're using MS Outlook Express > for > > >> your newsreader, which is the culprit. It has a header expiration > > >> configuration setting, but I'd instead suggest using Mozilla or > > >> Thunderbird for reading news... http://www.mozilla.org > > > > When OE discovers that a message has expired off the server it > deletes the > > message from the local store for the newsgroup. You can copy > important > > messages to a local mail folder you create for that purpose. > > > > -- > > Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE > > Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email > > http://www.fjsmjs.com > > Protect your PC > > http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ > > > > > >
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