Re: Search Options from Search Explorer Bar in IE6 Missing on Win2

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Rick and Al,

You did a good job of summing up what I was trying to get across: The Search
Bar in IE6 has changed and we did not do anything, knowingly, to make it
change. It's behavior now is what some others have complained about in the
IE General NG when they talk about IE7 (I've never [knowingly] installed IE7
on my system, either).

Anyway, it seems that we few are the only ones posting anything about the
changes in the behavior of the IE6 Search Bar. Hey, MS! What is going on?
Did we uncover something you didn't think would get noticed because everyone
is supposed to be focusing on IE7? Was the change planned? Was it a mistake?
Answer up!


"Rick" <Rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I too did all that you did. It seems as though the search window is down
loaded on the fly
when you click on it. It was behaving badly (not loading all the time)
day's
before it changed. Something is going on. I miss the old features badly!

Rick

"Al" wrote:

I have discovered this same problem about 2 weeks ago. I never even
heard of
IE 7. I even tried to restore to an earlier date but nothing changes.
The
search options are different and the customize dialog box is different.
You
also get a greyed out next button. I've tried too remove most of the
security
patches and hot fixes installed over the last few weeks but it didn't
help.
At first I thought it was a wierd hijack but I think it has something to
do
with those updates.

"Rick" wrote:

Actually, you are getting a few posts mixed together. I never had IE7
beta on
my machine. I can't wait for the final version. It seem alot of people
don't
use Ms's search pane which opens on the left side of your main IE
window.
(first you have to get rid of the stupid animated dog and use classic
internet search. Then you can select multiple search engines, enter
your
criteria, and click next to see what each search engine came up with
without
disturbing the main window. Very handy! I do use Google but when you
click a
link, you navigate away from the Google search results window. Then
you have
to click ,back, back, etc. Sorry if this is simplified but it seems
people
don't know what I'm talking about. Now you can't pick more that one
search
engine at a time. And if you close the pane and reopen it it resets it
to the
begining. Before it would remember the last settings. So there! I want
it
back the way it's been for years or a nice explanation! Or a cool
substitute
that does the same thing.

Rick


"brand dub" wrote:

" Perhaps MS put some programming in one of their security etting
patches that
purposely crippled the IE6 Search program due to a security hole in
the
Search program. I do not do automatic updates on my home or work
computers.
I do not recall reading, in any of the descriptions of the updates
and
patches that I did choose to download and install, anything that
mentioned
the IE Search program."

Now THAT IS a statement. "Perhaps MS put some programming in one of
their
security patches that purposely crippled the IE6 Search program due
to a
security hole in the Search program".
I don't want to sound rude but Galen, the last thing MS would do is
hack
off its own limb because its foot got a cramp. People shoot broken
horses not
software which I sometimes think think IS backwards. You are
somewhat right
though, almost all MS patches are usually about security issues and
fixes, it
may just be a bad patch (which can be uninstalled) or a virus of
some sort.

Rick, if you have seen a lot of this is it on any and all OS's and
what
exactly do you two mean seeing about 'IE7 bloatware vomit' (BTW,I
used IE 7
for a week and got rid of it because it blew - but it worked and was
a long
overdue upgrade for IE but I still prefer Opera. McIE7 and its Vista
companion ARE bloatware but that is another issue)

I'm not clear on how you manage to preceive Internet Explorer 7
(beta or
otherwise) is on a system by accident, and how it was located are
there icons
associated? Is there the IE 7 GUI? The property ***? what up?

I'm curious also because last year I found "Iexplorer.exe", a combo
of
native explorer and Iexplore, found in my i386 folder.
This was a "sub: female dog" to delete, I couldnt quarantine it nor
has , to
this day, any Antivirus program picked it up (I used Norton anti to
scan it
and gave it a "2 thumbs up"). As a kicker, I thought I deleted it 4
months
prior to that last incident....
I'll spare you the details but it disabled MS firewall, gave
NortonsAnti
some problems and I suspect it may have messed up the OS
GUI's/scipting
registry permissions.

A fine example would be a blank search page.

But the two of you are being a little vague about your issues. So
search
doesn't remember its last search term? And please, do tell about
this "IE7
installed itself" phenominon? I'm just as confused as Rose.

==============================================================

"Galen Sievert" wrote:

Rick,

" I guess we all went to our computers in our sleep and down
loaded IE7."

Exactly!

Based on the negative aspects/behaviors being attributed to IE7 by
the
contributors on the IE General NG, I was implying that some part
of IE7
programming was involved in the crippling of the Search program
that worked
very well once upon a time on IE6.

Perhaps MS put some programming in one of their security patches
that
purposely crippled the IE6 Search program due to a security hole
in the
Search program. I do not do automatic updates on my home or work
computers.
I do not recall reading, in any of the descriptions of the updates
and
patches that I did choose to download and install, anything that
mentioned
the IE Search program.

Galen

"Rose" wrote:

You stated:

From what I have read on the IE-general NG,
I
believe that the IE7 bogus beta vomit version of the
search program
has
hijacked and crippled the search engine program of IE6.

Doesn't this mean that you did install IE7? That would seem
to me to be
the
only way that it could cause you problems, if you had
installed it. How
else could you connect the two?

Just confused.



"Galen W. Sievert, PC, MS Ed." <gsievert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote in
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Brandub,
I wish it were as simple as just uninstalling IE7.
However,
as
Rick stated, I don't (that I know of) have any IE7 bloat on
my
computer. I
never did intentionally or knowingly download and/or install
IE7.

Also, my system does not have a "srchui.dll"
file. Is that
an
XP
file? I run ONLY Win2K on my Machine. Or was that file
deleted by
whatever
clone that was unknowingly installed to take the place of
the real
search
program that formerly existed?

Galen

"brand dub" <brentdub@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Galen, please this.

First of all BETA's should be tested in seperate partitions
from your
own
boot OS (IE; so when you update your Boot operating system
(Win2K SP4
patched, IE 6.0.2800.1106 patched) with IE6 files it
doesn't replace
your
IE7
beta files).


#2 IE7 beta has it's own forums to address your issues and
comments.
When
you installed IE7 there should have been a shortcut to the
forum and
support
from the browsers favorites menu or in the system IE
folder.

more info here
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/ie7/default.mspx
comments go here



http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general&cat=en_us_28cca3eb-7037-4d4f-bde1-d8efee1f1420&lang=en&cr=us


BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY!!

" > (Galen) Is there a way to restore the program
associated with
the
Search Bar
back to the way it was (and should be) when IE6 was first
installed?
(Win2K SP4 patched, IE 6.0.2800.1106 patched)"

1.Yes there is. get rid of your IE7 beta.
2."Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 Preview will only run on
Windows® XP
Service
Pack 2 (SP2) systems" as it says right on the download
page in bold
letters.
2.Roll Back to IE6 or uninstall IE7
3.a/Try to register the search assistant with
Start>run , type:
regsvr32 %windir%\srchasst\srchui.dll
and go.
or
b/find the search assistant file "srchui.dll" in your
system and
double
click it to install the driver in the registry.

Good Luck.

Brandon 'dub'
self annointed computer user



"Galen W. Sievert, PC, MS Ed." wrote:

Hi,
I am no longer getting any search options --
Dictionary,
Encyclopedia,
etc. -- nor am I able to customize the search options on
the Search
Bar.
Also, now when I close the Search Bar to maximize the IE
window
and
then
click on the Search button on the Standard toolbar to
re-open the
Search
Bar, all of the previous search results are gone! I must
re-enter
the
search
criteria again!!



This did not happen before -- I was able to re-open the
Search Bar to continue to search the previously listed
Web pages
(If
the
IE/Web page was left open). From what I have read on the
IE-general
NG,
I
believe that the IE7 bogus beta vomit version of the
search program
has
hijacked and crippled the search engine program of IE6.
(A result
of
using
automatic updates?)




Galen
















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