Re: Thank You
- From: "JoeM" <joem83@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:02:17 -0400
When you stated
"And what do you mean by "FF can not stop this unless they do not allow
downloads"? Are you suggesting that Firefox disable downloads entirely?
That would be quite silly unless you're talking about in an office
where regular users shouldn't be downloading things. If that's the
case, I don't *believe* that Internet Explorer has the ability to stop
downloads, either (if it does, I stand corrected). Firefox might, in
fact, have this ability; but, if it doesn't, I could personally write a
patch that includes this addition, submit it to the Mozilla Foundation
and hope that it makes it into the development tree. Can you do that
with Internet Explorer?"
When you click on a link that ask to download a file and you run it, that is
a user problem which neither FF nor IE can fix.
What I mean by spyware damaging FF, is that you can goto a website a message
appears asking you to you want to install this program. If you do so about
50 or so individual FF windows open (not tabs) and yes it is FF windows,
open. Then after you reboot the machine the FF exe file is gone.
I have seen this and have reported it to the FF community when i first saw
the problem with 1.01. But they still have not fixed this checked with
verison 1.06.
"Fao, Sean" <enceladus311@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> JoeM wrote:
>> The reason that FF is gainging so fast and by so much, is that people say
>> that FF is more secure even though it is not. The problem is that people
>> just download crap from anyone they want. And FF can not stop this
>> unless they do not allow downloads, which last I checked they don't. I
>> have even seen spyware damage FF.
>
> First of all, if you're going to argue which browser is more secure,
> you're out of your mind because every single analysis I've either read or
> personally conducted has without a doubt proved Firefox to be superior
> (which is an understatement, mind you) to Internet Explorer. Windows XP
> SP2 has done wonders to *help*, but IE has still proved to be quite
> insecure. Additionally, many users have either not upgraded or are simply
> not running Windows XP. The latest version of Firefox will run on *any*
> version of Windows since Win9x in addition to Linux, FreeBSD, etc. As
> well can Opera.
>
> Granted, Firefox has had a large number of security updates in the past
> few months; but, you must be aware that one of the highest priorities of
> the development team for the next few release was to work on security. Is
> it no surprise, then, that there have been so many? We can likely expect
> to see that number drop some time in the near future.
>
> Furthermore, on the topic of security, there have been serious holes in
> Internet Explorer that were announced *years* ago that have still not been
> corrected. Most have, but it still took Microsoft *years*, while the
> Mozilla foundation works extremely fast to correct any known issues. The
> Internet Explorer model was flawed from the beginning because it's
> integrated too closely with the OS.
>
> Firefox *is* more secure. It also has the support of tons of developers
> that are writing extensions to enhance your browsing experience. Why
> anybody would be afraid to move to it, is beyond me. It's free, it's
> faster, it's far closer to being standards compliant, it has far more
> features. What is there to loose except a few extra megabytes of disk
> space?
>
> And what do you mean by "FF can not stop this unless they do not allow
> downloads"? Are you suggesting that Firefox disable downloads entirely?
> That would be quite silly unless you're talking about in an office where
> regular users shouldn't be downloading things. If that's the case, I
> don't *believe* that Internet Explorer has the ability to stop downloads,
> either (if it does, I stand corrected). Firefox might, in fact, have this
> ability; but, if it doesn't, I could personally write a patch that
> includes this addition, submit it to the Mozilla Foundation and hope that
> it makes it into the development tree. Can you do that with Internet
> Explorer?
>
> One more thing, define exactly what you mean by spyware damaging Firefox.
>
> --
> Sean
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