Re: Mozilla Firefox
From: BC (bconneely_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 12/17/04
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Date: 16 Dec 2004 20:27:38 -0800
If you disable all those features, then you're going
to get a lot of complaints when you go to sites that
detect you're using IE, but have the security turned
up high. You also lose a reason to use IE at all
instead of downloading/installing Firefox.
But fundamentally there is no good reason to continue
using IE, given its history and the growing severity of
its exploits. Look at what Penn State recently decided
to do, and I suspect that it won't end here:
http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/55301051
And I would be more impressed to see a Microsoft link
urging developers to abandon ActiveX development.
-BC
Fuzzy Logic wrote:
> "BC" <bconneely@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1103233470.489013.127500
> @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Bill Martin wrote:
> >> > Three Firefox features you might like are: (a) a great popup
> > blocker (with
> >> > IE this is available only to those with XP SP2), (b) tabbed
> > browsing (for
> >> > many who use it, it is a godsend); (c) better security (really).
> >>
> >> Ok, I'll bite. Better security how? Fundamentally more secure
> > design
> >> somehow, or just a question of who did the better coding?
> >>
> >
> > Both. IE and its ActiveX controls have been nothing
> > but bad news for security since its introduction way
> > back when:
> > http://www.halcyon.com/mclain/ActiveX/Exploder/FAQ.htm
> >
> > All these years and patches/updates since and IE is
> > even more insecure than ever since the virus writers
> > have been doing much better at improving their wares
> > than Microsoft. There is NO way to truly secure IE
> > without disabling a lot of its so-called features that
> > Microsoft disengenuously convinced a lot of naive
> > companies into requiring it for web access to their
> > services.
>
> Many of the questionable features are disabled in XP SP2. There is
nothing
> to stop a user from disabling features that they don't want or need.
>
> > As far as coding goes, look at the size difference
> > between a full download of IE6 and Mozilla Firefox:
> > Approx 76.8 Mb versus 4.7 (or about 5.4 Mb if you
> > include Flashplayer, or about 11.2 Mb if you also
> > include Thunderbird.) And this for a product that
> > hasn't been fundamentally improved since the original
> > NSCA Mosaic and Netscape browsers:
> > http://www.greytower.net/help/browsers.html
>
> A full download of IE contains Outlook Express, Windows Media Player,
> Shockwave and assorted other components.
>
> > If Microsoft was truly committed to improving security,
> > it would have at the very least phased out ActiveX
> > years ago.
> >
> > I hope you find this food for thought and whatever.
>
> Turn off ActiveX. It's not that hard. Even better configure it to
only run
> on trusted sites.
>
> Here are Microsoft's recommendations:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/security/incident/settings.mspx
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