Re: address bar hijack

From: earle (earle_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 12/01/04 

Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 23:35:07 -0800

Hi Robert;
I type www because I find web addresses in magazines, I do not know how else
I can explain it. I am running XP home and IE6 and I just spent over an hour
trying to figure out command prompt which I find very obtuse to understand.
I tried to follow your directions and I went to system help but I obviously
cannot figure out how to do it so...thank you for your help anyway and best
wishes to you.
Earle

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> "earle" <earle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0D0C2762-FC93-4A3E-88B0-861E10E07517@microsoft.com...
> > Thank you Robert,
> >
> > First let me clear up why I type "www". I use "ctrl/ enter" frequently so I
> > do not have to type in "www." and ".com" if I am going to a US website. I
> > love this feature, however, many websites I am looking for are international
> > so I cannot use that command properly. I just went back to the long way
> > because when I am doing research I alternate between entering ".com" and
> > ".com.uk" etc. websites. I am open to any suggestions.
>
> Earle,
>
> It's not clear if you understand what I wrote.
> Try using AutoComplete the way it is designed to work currently
> using the AutoSuggest dropdown list. The Ctrl-Enter feature is an
> anachronism, the only part of an old feature called AutoScan which
> unfortunately IMO was left semi-operational in the new implementation.
> As long as you have previously visited a site or have it in your Favorites
> and it starts with www. you do not need to type the www. to get a match
> in the AutoSuggest dropdown list. Therefore the only time you would
> be bothered by the www1. site alias should be the first time you try to
> visit a new site by typing it. Then my question would be why would you
> be *typing* a new site? Probably only because you only *heard* of it?
> Otherwise I expect that you would be either using a link to it or at most
> copying and pasting a complete URL from another source
> and both of those cases also avoid you having to be bothered by
> seeing site aliases.
>
> I'm not going to try to rewrite my tip about doing a find in the History.IE5
> index.dat until I know specifically what there is that you don't understand.
> Also I can't be more specific anyway because you have so far failed to
> disclose your OS. The location of the History "folder" varies considerably
> among OS. However, you should be able to find it with an Explorer
> search of History, type Folder.
>
> FWIW here is where mine starts:
> %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\History\
> I can type that in an IE Address bar and AutoComplete shows the pseudo
> subfolders of History. However, the actual subdirectories which implement
> them are hidden and only accessible by typing them explicitly or by switching
> to a command window and drilling down lower into the directory structure
> using the dir/ad and cd commands I mentioned.
>
> You *must* open a command window and navigate to that directory.
> In my case I could enter this:
>
> cd /d %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\History\History.IE5
>
> From there it is just the simple matter of using the find command
> I previously specified to you in my first reply.
>
>
> Good luck
>
> Robert
> ---
>
>
> >
> > In response to the issue:
> > There is nothing in history or typed urls in the registry. I looked in IE5
> > History and Content to the best of my ability through search but I could see
> > no direct reference to "dealtime".
> >
> > I was not able to follow your 2nd last posting where you wrote:
> > Have you tried searching your History.IE5\index.dat (even after that)?
> > Open a command window, navigate to the History.IE5 directory (e.g. with
> > dir/ad and chdir commands) and enter: find /i "dealtime.com" index.dat
> > This intrigues me if you would like to take me through it as I need to know
> > what to type specifically.
> >
> > The problem could be in IE5 and though I did put some of it in the trash
> > previously and restarted but it had no effect so I recovered them as I was
> > flying blind.
> >
> > I did notice something in the registry which I thought may be interesting in
> > HKey Current User/ Software/ Microsoft/ IE/ Toolbar: There is an entry in
> > blue called "brand lead in" Also there is a folder called "search hooks"
> > which I have not seen referenced anywhere.
> >
> > So please if you could spell out the IE5 thing for me and tell me what to
> > delete. I am not concerned about passwords etc I or history.
> >
> > I also just tried CC Cleaner but to no avail.
> >
> > Thank you for your patience.
> >
> > Earle
> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
> >
> >> "earle" <earle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:AE1FDE23-3297-4C25-BFFB-3F3020464736@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi Robert thanks for the help. The problem is still there. When I type www
> >> > in order to enter and address. The address bar shows www1.dealtime.com note
> >> > 1 before the dot. I do not have this in my favourites or history or drop
> >> > down nor do I wish to keep it. It is disappointing that Dagtuz did not give
> >> > his solution. I am not sure what a protocal prefix is.
> >>
> >> A protocol prefix is http://
> >>
> >>
> >> > When I type dea... nothing comes up.
> >>
> >> Ok. I see now that that idea only works with a www. prefix.
> >> But that really wasn't the point. Why are you typing www
> >> in the Address bar? If whatever it is that you are really trying
> >> to enter is in your AutoSuggest list and *it* starts with www.
> >> then I'm suggesting that you start typing the *next* character
> >> (e.g. the first character in the domain name of whatever site it is.)
> >> The point is that if you get into the habit of not typing www.
> >> unnecessarily you will hardly ever notice those unwanted
> >> alias prefixes such as www1. Note in particular that doing that
> >> has the secondary benefit (normally) of providing a protocol
> >> prefix to your URLs without resorting to AutoSearch's quirky
> >> (and sometimes infiltrated) machinery.
> >>
> >>
> >> > I am not trying to use autocomplete at all I just cannot shake this thing.
> >>
> >> Ok. Let's take it slowly then. (I usually try to give complete answers
> >> but I suspect I would lose you. Notice that there are several
> >> unanswered questions and untested suggestions below.)
> >>
> >> One of the unanswered questions is "Have you tried clearing your History?"
> >> Does the unwanted URL show up in History, View by Site? (Ctrl-h,Alt-w,i)
> >> If it is there it would be listed under www1.dea... not under dea...
> >>
> >>
> >> If it is listed there you could try using the History item delete function;
> >> however, there is some question about its reliability for general cases
> >> so I have a more detailed speculative reply that I have posted
> >> in various forms from time to time. Keyword: recursion
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=recursion+delete+history+author:aldwinckle+group:microsoft.*.ie6.browser&num=20&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&scoring=d
> >>
> >> (Google Groups search for
> >> recursion delete history author:aldwinckle group:microsoft.*.ie6.browser
> >> )
> >>
> >>
> >> > I cannot turn off autocomplete because of another anomaly.
> >>
> >> I'm hoping you will find out that you wouldn't want to even if you could. ;)
> >>
> >>
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Earle
> >>
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >> Robert
> >> ---
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> >> When I type www in my address bar I get www1.dealtime.com.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please be more specific about what you are seeing--
> >> >> a complete URL with protocol prefix or something else?
> >> >> (If there is no protocol prefix it could be a Favorite that you
> >> >> are overlooking. It could also be a symptom of an AutoSearch
> >> >> hijacking.)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> What happens if you start typing dea... instead?
> >> >>
> >> >> Notice that if you are trying to use AutoComplete for Web Addresses
> >> >> that you should *not* be typing the www. prefix anyway.
> >> >> Type whatever the first letter of the domain name is and enough of the
> >> >> following characters or just cursor down into the list that such typing
> >> >> generates. Notice also that if it is something you use frequently you
> >> >> could create a Favorite for it and if necessary rename the Favorite
> >> >> to accelerate the search and minimize the amount typing or cursor
> >> >> movement you would otherwise need to do.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > So it is somewhere not in the obvious places.
> >> >>
> >> >> Such as?
> >> >>
> >> >> Have you tried clearing your History?
> >> >> Have you tried searching your History.IE5\index.dat (even after that)?
> >> >>
> >> >> Open a command window, navigate to the History.IE5 directory
> >> >> (e.g. with dir/ad and chdir commands) and enter:
> >> >>
> >> >> find /i "dealtime.com" index.dat
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you see?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Good luck
> >> >>
> >> >> Robert Aldwinckle
> >> >> ---
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "earle" <earle@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:CE4FFF60-1A1B-436C-B059-28805E2498A0@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Hey now I feel like my question got hijacked :) Just joking Bruce.
> >> >> > So let me ask you again if anyone can help me with the first question in
> >> >> > this thread? I do not have anything in typed urls I do not have a problem
> >> >> > with deleting websites in the address bar drop down list. But I cannot seem
> >> >> > to get rid of this www1.dealtime when I try to type in an address. So it is
> >> >> > somewhere but not in the obvious places. It is not in typed urls or dropdown.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If I turn off inline autocomplete in the advanced options then that will of
> >> >> > course temporarily cure the problem...
> >> >> > But I cannot turn off inline autocomplete because it brings up a different
> >> >> > issue. Frank Saunders gave me a solution in the registry for an autosearch
> >> >> > hijacking however it will revert if I uncheck inline autocomplete see "Auto
> >> >> > Search Malady".
> >> >> > So please I need your help here.
> >> >> > I have run Norton Programs, Free Surfer, AdAware, Spybot, CW Shredder, and
> >> >> > I searched through HiJack This.
> >> >> > Thanks Earle
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "earle" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> When I type www in my address bar I get www1.dealtime.com. It drives me
> >> >> >> nuts... don't go to dealtime.com. Spybot and Adaware don't work. What can I
> >> >> >> do to remove it?
> >> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> >> Earle
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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