Re: Microsoft websites screw up IE6(SP2)

From: Keith Stiles (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 09/24/04

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 18:25:58 -0700

Active X more secure! Surely you jest!

Keith Stiles

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Euclid :-)
>
>I am truly sorry that the information I provided did not
resolve your
>problem, and you are of course, entitled to your opinion
of my efforts to
>assist you after you jumped into another OP's thread,
and of course, you are
>also under no obligation to try any of the information
that I took the time
>to research for you in order to try to resolve your
problem.
>
>But, before you pass off all of the information as
useless, please consider
>the following:
>
>(NOTE: Instead of using Java, Microsoft has opted for
what it calls a more
>secure alternative--its own ActiveX. In Windows XP the
Java Virtual Machine
>has been dropped completely. You can find out more on
this here:
>http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0%2Caid%2C59928%
2C00.asp)
>
>Being that may WebPages are designed to use JavaScript,
this may be why it
>is only happening in IE and not the other Browsers, who
still support the
>JavaScript, and why I provided the information that I
did.
>
>However, perhaps someone else will be able to provide
you with further
>information that will be more helpful.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Jan :)
>Smiles are meant to be shared,
>that's why they're so contagious.
>
>
>> OK, I decided to try to read through your reply...
>>
>> Start>Run "REGSVR32 JSCRIPT" indicated that it worked
OK, although I
>> haven't the slightest idea what it did, nor whether it
helped
>> anything!
>>
>> re java or javascript malfunctioning - how would I
know? I don't even
>> know what they are.
>>
>> As for the javascript browser test, my browser passed
the test, and
>> said I have version 1.5.
>>
>> I won't get involved in the horrible java mess between
MS and Sun.
>> Let them work it out. In the meantime they are obliged
to keep our
>> browsers working correctly! The java discussion in
your reply is only
>> confusing, as is the javascript stuff. How would I
know?
>>
>> At that point I threw up my hands. Your reply is not a
proper
>> response IMHO, just a catch-all which will probably
help nobody. I am
>> an end user, not a technical genius, and don't want to
get involved
>> in that tech stuff. I just want a browser and op
system that works
>> right! -E
>
>
>>
>> "Euclid" <Euclid@mmiv.nu> wrote in message
>> news:uQo%23J1WnEHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> I don't make a career out of reading this newsgroup.
I usually only
>>> come here to report problems, occasionally if I get
bored with my
>>> usual NG fare. And although your answer is
appreciated, I'm not sure
>>> that I want to wade through the horrible maze of
possibilities which
>>> if offers... :)
>>>
>>> At this point I'm not sure if I agree that the fault
lies with SP2. I
>>> haven't yet found any other websites that cause the
InfoBar problem
>>> with my local home page, just Microsoft sites.
Microsoft sites with
>>> extensions like .mspx and .aspx are the culprits,
including the
>>> Windows Update site. Surely Microsoft (of all people)
should take
>>> proper care to make their own websites compatible
with Windows XP
>>> Home (SP2), which is what I'm running, so I deduce
that those sites
>>> all have some kind of incompatible coding bug. As for
the particular
>>> language involved, java or javascript or C+ or Basic
or assembly or
>>> Ukranian or whatever, I don't know about such
>>> things - that's too technical, way over my head.
>>>
>>> In addition to the InfoBar problem I described with
my local home
>>> page after visiting Microsoft websites, I notice that
now a lot of
>>> URLs just won't connect, and give the 'server not
found' white page
>>> - especially links on pages after I search google. I
tend to blame
>>> that problem on SP2, but of course I don't know.
Maybe that is
>>> indeed a javascript or java problem, whatever that
means. Google is
>>> using some kind of code to goto those websites that
is not working,
>>> whereas if I type in the direct URLs to those
websites, they often
>>> work OK. I suppose that's maybe a javascript problem,
but again, I
>>> don't know about such things.
>>>
>>> But those google pages and malfunctioning links etc
do not cause the
>>> subsequent "hangover effect" InfoBar problem with my
local home
>>> page, only Microsoft sites!
>>> -E
>>>
>>> "Jan Il" <abuse@localhost.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uPkLfcMnEHA.3756@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Euclid :-)
>>>>
>>>>> After visiting a Microsoft website, IE6(SP2) in
Windows XP Home
>>>>> has a hangover effect. My local home page then
invokes the dreaded
>>>>> InfoBar at the top saying that some kind of
dangerous active
>>>>> content has been blocked. That's ridiculous. It
only contains a
>>>>> list of URLs to my most frequently visited
websites, nothing more,
>>>>> and is purely html text, no graphics. Closing then
re-opening IE6
>>>>> resets it to normal, but why can't Microsoft fix
their own
>>>>> websites to work right? I suspect it has something
to do with
>>>>> their worthless .NET, which I don't have installed.
I had .NET for
>>>>> awhile but it messed up my autologin to windows, so
got rid of it.
>>>>> -E
>>>>
>>>> It is not the website, it is SP2. If you were to
read through the
>>>> newsgroup
>>>> you would see that there are several others who are
having a similar
>>>> problem
>>>> after installing the SP2. Thus far, it has been
difficult to find
>>>> aspecific
>>>> cause and solution. However, often it has to do
with the
>>>> Javascript of some
>>>> websites, including MS websites.
>>>>
>>>> You might try the following and see if it will help
with your
>>>> problem:
>>>>
>>>> Script Debugging Problem
>>>>
>>>> Open IE
>>>> Tools | Advanced
>>>> Under Browings:
>>>> Disable Script Debugging - Check it
>>>> Display a notification about every script error -
Uncheck it
>>>> Apply
>>>> OK
>>>>
>>>> or........................
>>>>
>>>> Problems accessing secure sites/ cannot install 128
bit encryption
>>>>
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers2.htm#secure_sites
>>>>
>>>> or...............
>>>>
>>>> Courtesy of Ramesh -
>>>>
>>>> Click Start, Run and type this command
>>>>
>>>> REGSVR32 JSCRIPT
>>>>
>>>> This should fix all or most of the said problems.
>>>>
>>>> [Related]
>>>> Internet Explorer "About" box is completely blank;
Unable to type
>>>> in text boxes in websites:
>>>> http://www.winxptutor.com/ieabout.htm
>>>>
>>>> or........
>>>>
>>>> JavaScript not working
>>>>
>>>> http://www.fjsmjs.com/OE/nolinks.htm
>>>> http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k/IEFAQ.htm Tips #21 & 46
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=281679
>>>>
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/answers2.htm#hyperlinks
>>>>
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/answers.htm#new_window
>>>>
>>>> Then see below:
>>>>
>>>> Where to get the JAVA VM
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/?gssnb=1
>>>> or
>>>> http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers_9.htm#java
>>>>
>>>> You can try updating your scripting engine. The
latest scripting
>>>> engine can
>>>> be found at:
>>>>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?
url=/downloads/list/webdev.asp
>>>>
>>>> (98, ME, NT4.0) For 2000 and XP go to
>>>>
>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?
FamilyID=c717d943-7e4b-4622-86eb-
95a22b832caa&DisplayLang=en
>>>>
>>>> and you can test Javascript here:
>>>> http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm
>>>>
>>>> Java VM:
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/answers_9.htm#java2
>>>>
>>>> Sun version
>>>> http://java.sun.com/getjava/installer.html
>>>>
>>>> MSJVM Transition FAQ
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/faq.asp
>>>>
>>>> Also read..................
>>>>
>>>> Courtesy of Jim Byrd:
>>>>
>>>> There is good information concerning all aspects of
the Java
>>>> situation here:
>>>> http://www.javatester.org/installing.html
>>>>
>>>> Be aware, however, that after Dec 31, 2007, MS will
apparently no
>>>> longer be
>>>> distributing Java or providing any support for Java
including
>>>> security fixes. See here:
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/
>>>> so you might want
>>>> to start thinking about the future.
>>>>
>>>> You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
>>>> http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all
versions - select
>>>> using the dropdown)
>>>>
>>>> Sun also offers an automatic download and install of
the 1.4 Java
>>>> plug-in here:
http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html
>>>>
>>>> For the MS Java VM, you may need to install v.3805
or v.3809 prior
>>>> to upgrading to v. 3810 if you didn't previous have
MS Java v. 3805
>>>> or 3809 installed.
>>>>
>>>> If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then you
can download and
>>>> install
>>>> the MS Java VM v. 3809 from here:
>>>>
>http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-
19990518/CabPool/Q810030_W2K_510A502BA8F9B6F19230BB2BCCE87
D5474AC9DCD.exe
>>>> or here:
>>>>
>http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com/MSJavaVM/Software/en/
com_microsoft.windows2000/x86win2k/com_microsoft.Q810030_W
2K_SP4_5849/Q810030_W2K.exe
>>>>
>>>> For Win2000 SP4, you'll need to re-install v.3805,
from here:
>>>>
http://www.download.support.safetec.net/msjavx86/msjavx86.
exe
>>>> http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/msjavx86.exe
>>>>
>>>> For all other OS's:
>>>>
>>>> Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from one
of the links
>>>> here:
http://ftp.idilis.ro/windows/sp/jvm98/msjavwu.exe, or
here:
>>>> http://secinfo.huji.ac.il/patches/Win-xp/msjavwu.exe
>>>>
>>>> Then upgrade to v. 3810:
>>>>
>>>> For all OS's except Win2kSP4 obtain v. 3810 here:
>>>> http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?
fid=1050022631 ,or here:
>>>>
>http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3-
19990518/cabpool/MSJavWU_8073687b82d41db93f4c2a04af2b34d.e
xe
>>>>
>>>> For Win2k - SP2, SP3 - you can also obtain v. 3810
from Microsoft
>>>> here:
>>>>
>http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/7/7/577b7277-
227d-4163-9b18-423356321682/Q816093_W2K_SP4_X86_EN.exe
>>>>
>>>> For Win2kSP4, to get 3810 from Microsoft you now
have to get
>>>> Q816093 from Windows Update Catalog - use the entry
for Windows
>>>> 2000 SP4 (this seems to
>>>> be the only Win2k option that has it) and then find
816093 in the
>>>> list. You
>>>> can find directions for using the Windows Update
Catalog functions
>>>> here:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-
US;323166. (I
>>>> am informed by Torgeir Bakken, MVP, that if you
rename the
>>>> downloaded file from
>>>> here: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?
fid=1050022631 to
>>>> msjavwu.exe it will then also work for SP4.)
>>>>
>>>> Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite
nicely. Just
>>>> select which
>>>> one you want to use in Tools|Internet
Options|Advanced and restart
>>>> all IE browsers. Here, courtesy of Michel Gallant,
MVP Security, is
>>>> a tiny utility
>>>> which allows you to toggle and view status of your
current
>>>> Java VM vendor associated with IE:
>>>>
http://www.jensign.com/JavaScience/SelectIEJVM/index.html
>>>>
>>>> A note from Mitch Gallant:
>>>>
>>>> "One note about the JVM Selector utility: If/when
you install a
>>>> new version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually select
to have Sun
>>>> JVM as default
>>>> JVM for IE (in install), or after install via the
JavaPlugin control
>>>> panel.
>>>> This generates the necessary win32 registry entries,
which must be
>>>> present
>>>> for the utility to know about JavaPlugin. After
that, the utility
>>>> should work properly."
>>>>
>>>> MSJVM Transition FAQ
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/faq.asp
>>>>
>>>> or.....................
>>>>
>>>> Do you have the JavaScript plug-in installed?
>>>> http://java.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?
BundleId=9567
>>>>
>>>> or...........
>>>>
>>>> You might also try installing the Windows Script 5.6
for Windows
>>>> 2000 and XP
>>>> if you have not already done so. The install
includes a new
>>>> jscript.dl
>>>>
>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?
FamilyId=C717D943-7E4B-4622-86EB-
95A22B832CAA&displaylang=en
>>>>
>>>> or..............
>>>>
>>>> 1. You might want to refresh your scripting engine:
>>>>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?
url=/nhp/default.asp?contentid=28001169
>>>> or
>>>>
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?
url=/downloads/list/webdev.asp
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes there's a corrupt file in the cache and
one must go to
>>>> Tools | Internet Options and click Delete Files.
>>>>
>>>> 2a. Start>Run>Regsvr32 vbscript.dll
>>>>
>>>> 2b. Start>Run>Regsvr32 jscript.dll
>>>>
>>>> (WinXP users who have problems with 2a and 2b, see
>>>> http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/answers_9.htm)
>>>>
>>>> 3. Re-register all DLLs listed in
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=281679
>>>>
>>>> 4. See also
>>>> Error Message When You Browse the Web: An Error Has
Occurred in the
>>>> Script
>>>> on This Page
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306831
>>>> Scripting Errors When You View Web Pages in Internet
Explorer after
>>>> Installing Office 2003
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822521
>>>>
>>>> 5a. IE Tools>Internet
Options>Advanced>Browsing>Enable third-party
>>>> browser
>>>> extensions (uncheck & reboot).
>>>>
>>>> 5b. Find the hijacker that caused 5a to be checked
(or if none were
>>>> checked,
>>>> check for hijackware anyway):
>>>>
>>>> Dealing with Hijackware
>>>> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
>>>> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
>>>> http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.htm
>>>>
>>>> Archive: Java 2 SDK, Standard Edition (J2SE), v
1.4.1_01
>>>> http://java.sun.com/products/archive/j2se/1.4.1_01/
>>>>
>>>> Msjava.dll - Explorer caused an exception c0010000X
in module
>>>> This problem can occur if the Microsoft Java Virtual
Machine (VM) is
>>>> damaged. To work around this problem, install a new
copy of the
>>>> Java VM from the following Microsoft Web site:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/java/
>>>> or
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=232803
>>>>
>>>> also......
>>>>
>>>> It may, however, be Shockwave Flash related, try the
following:
>>>> There is a FAQ about the SWF plugin there.
>>>>
>http://candystand.com/contactus/contact.aspx?
m=/contactus/contact_us&cat1=254&cat2=256
>>>>
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> For XP SP2
>>>>
>>>> Tidying up after SP2 Installation:
>>>>
>http://forum.aumha.org/viewtopic.php?
t=7265&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
>>>>
>>>> WinXP SP2 Support Center
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
pr=windowsxpsp2
>>>> Pages of MVP & 'Windows Update Maven' Jupiter Jone's
>>>> Service Pack (any) Installation Checklist
>>>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm
>>>>
>>>> MS No charge SP2 support website
>>>>
>http://forum.aumha.org/viewtopic.php?
t=7843&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
>>>>
>>>> Security Problems - Blocking codes:
>>>>
>>>> Allow active content to run in files on My Computer -
 Windows XP
>>>> Service Pack 2:
>>>> http://www.winxptutor.com/lmzunlock.htm
>>>>
>>>> or......
>>>>
>>>> Internet options>Advanced tab..scroll down to
Security and check
>>>> Allow active content to run in My Computer.
>>>>
>>>> Browsing Security Enhancements
>>>>
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/mai
ntain/sp2brows.mspx
>>>>
>>>> Programs that may behave differently in WinXP SP2
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=884130
>>>>
>>>> You cannot open a new Internet Explorer window or
nothing occurs
>>>> after you
>>>> click a link
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-
US;281679
>>>>
>>>> or.............
>>>>
>>>> Problems with secure sites - Courtesy of Robert
Aldwinckle
>>>>
>>>> Try turning on prompts for Cookies and Active
Scripting so you can
>>>> tell if
>>>> anything is happening. You could also open the TIF
viewer and see
>>>> if you already received it. Make your view Details
and order by
>>>> Last Accesssed. The Cookie appears as a txt file.
There is also a
>>>> request to use ActiveX
>>>> which I couldn't see where it was being used but
there is a script
>>>> which checks whether the browser can handle
Shockwave Flash so I
>>>> suspect there may
>>>> be check for it
>>>> which I missed somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> The point is that all of that gets done before the
page starts being
>>>> rendered; so either your User-Agent string or your
version of Flash
>>>> may be
>>>> affecting what else is being loaded and it may be
that which is
>>>> causing the
>>>> 404.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't want to bother with prompting you would
also get a
>>>> different result simply by using the Security tab
slider and
>>>> setting it to High.
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget to set your security settings back to
whatever they
>>>> were (e.g.
>>>> click Default) after testing. ;)
>>>>
>>>> or ........
>>>>
>>>> Flash & Shockwave not working
>>>>
>>>> A few of things could contribute to the problem.
Have you checked
>>>> your firewall to see if the ad-blocker or Flash
blocker is set to
>>>> on or block? Also, there are several Pop-up blockers
that will
>>>> block Flash unless you turn it off. I had POP-UP
Blocker and it
>>>> would not open Flash at all, and
>>>> it took me a while to figure out what was doing it
When I
>>>> unchecked the Kill Flash it stopped.
>>>> Some Flash has pop-ups and the blockers will see
them as ads or and
>>>> kill it
>>>> any way.
>>>>
>>>> Also, if you have SpywareBlaster installed, be sure
you have Kill
>>>> Flash unchecked - Open SpywareBlaster - Tools -
Click on Flash
>>>> Killer then uncheck
>>>> "Switch off Flash Player" or in v3.1 Disable and
block Macromedia
>>>> Flash (4X
>>>> 5X & 6X) in Internet Explorer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If these steps do not resolve your problem, please
post back to this
>>>> thread
>>>> with the details and any error messages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>
>>>> Jan :)
>>>> Smiles are meant to be shared,
>>>> that's why they're so contagious.
>>>>
>>>> Please reply to the newsgroup so others may benefit.
>>>> Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the
benefit or other
>>>> readers.
>>>>
>>>> How to make a good newsgroup post:
>>>> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
>
>.
>

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