Re: How to activate Java Technology?

From: *Vanguard* (do-not-email_at_reply-to-group)
Date: 07/28/04


Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:44:36 -0500


"abrahamdj" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in news:58a401c4746b$91efc8b0$a501280a@phx.gbl:
> An aol on line request for help gave me the message "You
> will need to activate Java Technology to your browser to
> use NetAgent-Java Customer Client. I can't find this
> information anywhere at www.support.microsoft.com.
> Perhaps some of Bill Gates 3 billion take off from
> profits could be directed to on line help. Really!

Awww, must be so tough for liddle widdle woo to do a searchie to findsie
articles, huh?

- http://support.microsoft.com/
- Advanced search
- Search on "java" for Windows XP (a guess since you didn't bother to
mention what OS you use)

Oh, look what got found:

    http://snipurl.com/ms_java_search

Whew! That was so hard my fingers are just raw. Could it be, no, or
could it, um, maybe, the article titled "INFO: Availability of Current
Build of Microsoft VM" all the way down so far to the 7th item in the
match list. Of course, you could use the JVM from the developer that
defines the standard (i.e., Sun) from http://java.com/en/index.jsp. Oh,
but excuuuuuse me for answering a question you never asked.

Not so funny getting a smart ass response to a smart ass query, is it,
just because you didn't really expend much effort in a search at their
support site nor bothered to even search first within the newsgroup for
related posts nor do a Google search. Instead you decided to submit a
knee-jerk post.

Don't bitch to Microsoft that their Java VM is missing. Bitch to Sun to
argue your point that they shouldn't have sued - and won - to force
Microsoft to discontinue providing it. If the JVM is missing, well,
contact Sun to express your dismay. Sun started the lawsuit over 6
years ago. Where have you been all that time? Further searching at
microsoft.com revealed archived articles mentioning the distribution of
MSJVM, like http://snipurl.com/82m9. There used to be the article at
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/java/01-23settlement.asp but that
page is no longer there. If you visit http://www.microsoft.com/java,
there is a link to a news article stating that Sun and Microsoft signed
an agreement in April where "The companies have agreed that Microsoft
may continue to provide product support for the Microsoft Java
Virtual Machine that customers have deployed in Microsoft's products."
Well, support is not the same as development. See
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=163637 which says, "Microsoft does not
provide a downloadable version of the Microsoft VM for computers that do
not already have the Microsoft VM installed." As it is now, the JVM
will get updated if and only if it is already installed (and it isn't
available in all configurations of Windows but may get installed with
some applications, like Visual Studio 6). If there is no further
development of the MSJVM (to match Sun's) then it is basically a defunct
product that merely exists but does not evolve and which users won't
want for much longer and may be unusable for Java apps that require new
features of fixes only available in the Sun JVM.



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