Re: MSN Groups and page cannot be displayed
From: Jayne (Jayne_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 06/30/04
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:03:01 -0700
Hi,
Thanks for the continued help, much appreciated!
Ok well firstly there is nothing special about the group, it just a standard msn group you can find it at: http://groups.msn.com/cerriessigcentral I know most of the members there very well and I know they are using the default msn setup and have no troubles posting. I have always been able to post in plain text, but I've never been able to use the default method of posting on any msn groups.
I've been through the windows update proceedure lots of times but it only ever comes up with updates to windows xp and not IE6. I found the patches by searching for the problem on the Microsoft site and these seemed to sum up pretty well the problem I was having so I thought they would help to solve the problem. I'm also having problems accessing other sites such as http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/ On this site, the page only loads so far and gets to 28 items remaining and then freezes and eventually comes up with the page cannot be displayed.
Interestingly though, I have a forum of my own (not on msn) and I have no trouble posting there at all http://www.gemsnthings.co.uk/forum
I'm wondering if because the msn group loads some kind of applet to type your message in if this could be some kind of Java problem? Or maybe I'm way off track with that? Sorry as you can tell I'm pretty clueless with these things lol.
Anyway thanks for all your help. You're a star ;-)
Jayne
"LuckyStrike" wrote:
> Hello Jayne -
>
> YW. So now you can access the board and post, albeit it, in plain text?
> That's an improvement over "page cannot be displayed" isn't it? ;-)
>
> Now, I will assume that you see smileys and the like at the group in which
> you are trying to post. I also assume they *don't* have an *insert smiley
> link* which is located in some obscure area; somewhere in the reply to post
> area when you've opened a text box in which to reply. Also, some Boards do
> not allow HTML (except by Admin permission), but will use a means such as BB
> code.
>
> BBCode is a special implementation of HTML. Whether you can actually use
> BBCode in your posts on the forum is determined by the administrator. In
> addition you can disable BBCode on a per post basis via the posting form.
> BBCode itself is similar in style to HTML, tags are enclosed in square
> braces [ and ] rather than < and > and it offers greater control over what
> and how something is displayed. Depending on the template you are using you
> may find adding BBCode to your posts is made much easier through a clickable
> interface above the message area on the posting form. We'll get into that in
> a little while later.
>
> Before getting onto that, let's backtrack to the patch issue. What has led
> you to believe this patch is one which you need to accomplish your end? Was
> it recommended or suggested by someone? If so, from where? Remember, than
> any patch and update that is offered from the WU site is deemed necessary to
> the security and/or use of IE6. To get patches piecemeal from Windows
> Downloads is *not* the recommended or safe procedure, as installing these
> patches in the wrong order can *break* previously installed updates and
> patches. Rely upon Windows Update to determine your needs. Our (yours and
> mine) patches differ; this may be due to respectively different installation
> dates of IE6 and the subsequent updates which were applied. As I've said,
> later patches will supersede previous ones for a variety of reasons. This is
> not always true, but is mostly the case when a *cumulative update* is
> installed.
>
> Last thing regarding this posting thing and updates/patches etc. I use
> several other boards, and have no problem posting or inserting images,
> modifying text, even inserting smileys (although I hate their choices <g>)
> and I have neither of those patches which you are trying to install in your
> machine. So I don't know what to say about the need for those patches.
>
> Next, and most important: Have you looked at the FAQ at the board, or made
> inquiry (by direct board post to Admin or fellow users) into the means by
> which Smileys and the like are employed? There must be some answers to be
> found therein. Now that you can post instead of getting a "page cannot be
> displayed", I'd try that.
>
> Some examples of how to employ BB Code:
> http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/faq/help/ubbcode.php
> http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/faq.php?mode=bbcode
>
> That's all I can think of for now. Sorry I haven't any other answers or
> solutions to offer you. Best of luck Jayne, and I hope some of this may
> help.
> --
>
> LuckyStrike
> LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
>
> How to make a good newsgroup post:
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/post.html
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Jayne" <Jayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:204A332E-E1CD-4E15-ABB5-E7058BFD8F24@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply. Yes cookies and scripting are enabled and I am
> signed into the group. I have never been able to post on this group using
> the standard (rich text???) format. I can post using plain text but that's
> annoying because that means I can't use the smilies, change font or add
> pictures to my posts.
> >
> > The patch I have been trying to download is q305217.exe found at
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2D7B2F19-0D79-43E1-9B0B-671C7E5E33D8&displaylang=en
> and I have also tried q827667.exe found at
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=7f0debb3-0b8d-4196-bd6d-9d8651e5f5c0&displaylang=en The first one tells me Interet explorer 6
> needs to be installed to install the patch (I have got internet explorer 6
> installed) and the second one tells me I need to have SP1 installed before
> installing it and yep you guessed it I have already got SP1 installed!
> >
> > Ok following your instructions it tells me I have update versions: SP1;
> Q330994; Q822925; Q832894; Q837009; Q831167 installed.
> >
> > Thank you for your help
> >
> > Jayne
> >
> >
> > "LuckyStrike" wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings Jayne -
> > >
> > > Assuming you've logged-in and cookies are enabled? That it doesn't
> require
> > > scripting, or does, and you've enabled that? Does the MSN Groups page
> now
> > > work since you've un-installed (reverted to prior version) and
> re-installed?
> > >
> > > Now which "patch/ fix" are you referring to? MSKB article number please?
> > >
> > > Moving along, *some* patches get superseded by later patches and /or
> > > cumulative updates. If, when you re-installed IE6 other WU scans
> revealed
> > > other patches (that does happen as vulnerabilities are uncovered or bugs
> are
> > > found in the previous patch) they will pre-empt the availability/
> > > applicability of any "in-between" updates.
> > >
> > > I had such an instance myself where an update I had prior to an IE6
> > > un-install was no longer re-installable. The wording was identical in
> two
> > > instances to that which you are experiencing, but MS's wording didn't
> > > clarify that this patch was now "obsolete", having been superseded by a
> > > later cumulative patch.
> > >
> > > Installed in my IE6 are the following:
> > > SP1;q313829;Q330994;Q828750;Q818529;Q824145;Q832894;Q837009;Q831167;
> > >
> > > Open IE>toolbar>tools>help>about should list all updates installed.
> > >
> > > So, we'll need to know if the first problem is still extant, and which
> patch
> > > (details please) you are referring to.
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > ;-) For use at a later time when you are relaxed and have nothing else
> to
> > > do: ;-)
> > > Copy and paste the following into your address bar of Google (or
> whatever).
> > > Active Scripting *must* be enabled for this to work.
> > > JavaScript:navigator.appMinorVersion
> > >
> > > Or you can use this link (Scripting must still be enabled)
> > > http://aumha.org/mydetail.htm
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > --
> > >
> > > LuckyStrike
> > > LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
> > >
> > > How to make a good newsgroup post:
> > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/post.html
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > "Jayne" <Jayne@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4E28DA43-5B87-43BA-9CBB-E6EE78EA1773@microsoft.com...
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I've had this problem for awhile. When I try to post on MSN Groups
> > > nothing happens for ages and then it just comes up "page cannot be
> > > displayed" and my message does not get posted.
> > > >
> > > > I tried installing the patch for IE6 which claims to fix this problem
> but
> > > it kept saying that I needed to install SP1 for it to run. Well I
> already
> > > had SP1 and despite downloading it several times <snipped>
> > > >
> > > > Jayne
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
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