Re: Sun Java RTE v1.4.2 IE plug-in crash-and-burn Windows XP Pro SP-1

From: Jan Il (abuse_at_localhost.com)
Date: 06/24/04 

Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:53:57 -0700

Hi Bloke at the pennine puddle :-)
> I don't use SpywareBlaster. I'm an ever so careful user with quite a
> number of years of technical experience. I'm not just fresh out of a
> college or university. My technical and trouble-shooting experience
> is quite mature.
>
> USually I find that when I really get stumped then it will be a coding
> fault somewhere and whatever it will be, I for sure won't have access
> to any source code to examine or debug.
>
> It's now just after 1am in the UK and I'm just about flushed. For the
> moment I'm surviving because I can disable the Sun Java plug-in and
> use Microsoft's VM, which works perfectly, but that is a compromise.
>
> It would be better to have the problem sorted.
>
> The fault is not random. I can re-create the steps that screw up
> Windwows XP.
>
> Strangly enough the last time the computer hung I yet again selected
> `Shutdown`, but this time I avoided punching the reset-button after a
> 5 minute wait. I loaded up PROCXP from SysInternals and noticed that
> processes were shutting down, but VERY SLOWLY.
>
> After about 10 to 15 minutes the process explorer terminated and I was
> presented with a desktop. Another 10 minutes all the icons
> dissapeared and just the desktop background was shown.
>
> About anoother 8 minutes the small dialogue box appeared showing that
> the system shut down was in progress.
>
> I would say (as I didn't have the stop-watch running) that it took my
> computer about 30 to 35 minutes to actually shut-down Windows XP and
> power-off.
>
> Now, you would think that there would be a process or three that would
> be maxing out the CPU at 100% causing a slow shut down. Not so.
> During shutdown the process utilisation is at about 5% or lower. I
> got this while PROCXP was running.
>
> Something about the set-up of my computer has triggered a very nasty
> bug within the Sun JRE of which the result is just as bad as a worm or
> virus performing a denial-of-service attack.
>
> It's annoying, as is trying to get a decent response from Sun. I've
> started to get some ball rolling, but this seems to have stalled,
> possibly.
>
> The important thing here is that I very firmly beleive this is not a
> Microsoft VM problem so I think it's safe to say that all the
> Microsoft related solutions are just about useless.
>
> If you have any other ideas, I would love to know.
>
> It's inconvenient, but the other WinXP computer still works and if I
> really need to I can use that to access a web site that refuses to
> work with the Microsoft VM, and that does not mean that the problem is
> fixed! Far from it.
>
> Thanks for all the assistance you've provided to date.

Here is a bit more information that might help with the slow shutdown.

Courtesy of Kelly:

Power Off or Reboot After Shutdown (Line 76)
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

This edit automatically ends tasks and timeouts that prevent programs from
shutting down and clears the Paging File on Exit.

Auto End Tasks to Enable a Proper Shutdown (Line 76)
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Shutdown.Exe - Andrej Budja (Line 52)
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Hope this helps.

Jan :)