1058 and 1030 errors revisited

From: Perry (perry-hart.sweetser_at_hornnes.vgs.no)
Date: 10/05/04


Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:30:39 -0700

I would also like to submit a problem with our Domain GPO
and the notorious 1058 event. I have read everything about
it on this site, the eventid site and on the Microsoft
support site; however, the problem(s) described there do
not correspond to our problems (Q842804 deals with
computers resuming from standby of restart - ours are not
in these modes when this happens); and, although I have
tried all the suggestions mentioned at these sites, the
problem still won't go away.

But before I discuss this, I would like to contribute with
a solution to a possible diagnosis of the origin of some
of the problems I have seen. This is because I
inadvertently managed to produce the 1058 event through a
mistake in configuration. What happened was this: when I
first install a 2003 server I usually try to avoid virus
infection by immediately downloading and installing the
newest updates. However, the computer is exposed for a
very short time to the Internet without any protection. So
I usually turn on the firewall and turn off NetBios and
file-sharing on the NIC. Normally, I turn file-sharing
back on afterwards, but in this one case I forgot to do
so. Everything seemed ok, so I ran dcpromo and rebooted,
but then I got the infamous 1058 - 1030 event pair. When I
tried to run the gpofix utility I got a "network path not
found" error which tipped me off to the fact that I had
forgotten to switch file-sharing back on. I did so and
rebooted the pc, but this didn't help at all. The point
is: it seems that having file-sharing off when running
dcpromo messes up AC somehow. I ran dcpromo again to
uninstall AC rebooted and reinstalled AC. At this point
everything worked just fine. A hint to the programmers at
Microsoft: have dcpromo check the pc to see if all of the
conditions (like filesharing) for AC are met before
installing AC.

Now to our problem:

We have very successfully run a w2k domain at our school
for the last three years or so. We have four servers to
share the workload: one for AD, one for Exchange 2000, one
for ISA 2000 and one for NAS. There are about sixty client
pc's running XP Pro and these all connect through high
capacity HP Procurve switches. The clients all have 100
Mbps NICs, whereas the servers all have two gigabit
adapters each. We have never experienced any networking
problems - the switch monitors show few or no packets
dropped, and, with the exception of the occasional printer
error, the event logs on both clients and servers have
been error free for the last three years - which is
impressive, considering that we are talking about a school
here.

However, the servers were beginning to show their age - we
had run an NT network on them before - so we opted to
replace the four servers with newer ones with more
processing power (dual CPUs) more memory, SCSI raid
storage and (continued) multihomed gigabit NIC capacity.
When we bought the machines, we also decided to upgrade
the server software to Windows 2003, Exchange 2003 and ISA
2004. At the same time, we installed Service Pack 2 on the
XP clients.

We printed out our old w2k GPOs and used these to
configure the new servers pretty much the same as the old
ones were. Everything works fine - just as before - with
one exception. When more than approximately ten people try
to log on to the network at the same time, those client
machines that attempt the logon freeze for about 30
minutes. When this happens, we get the 1058 - 1030 userenv
event pair - usually for user SYSTEM on both the DC and
the client machine application logs. Sometimes this is
also followed by the same id pair for user ADMINISTRATOR -
on the DC and the logon username on the client.
Eventually, the users get logged in, but this makes the
entire network unusable for classroom teaching, where up
to 50 users log on simultaneously at the start of each
classroom hour.

Note that the system works fine otherwise. The GPOs are
applied correctly. This seems to be a network issue. We
noticed that after applying Service Pack 2 on the XP
clients that the application event log on client machines
is always full of MrxSmb event id 3019 errors that were
never there before. We have no unusual shares anywhere,
and certainly none on the client machines. We assume it
has something to do with this, but we are not sure. As I
mentioned before, our network infrastructure, which worked
fine under w2k, has not changed, and our switch monitors
show no noticeable traffic overload nor dropped packets. I
have tried the solutions mentioned elsewhere on this
forum, but I have not read of anyone having this problem
in exactly the same manner. I have even tried something
that no one else has tried: I noticed that it is the
Default Domain Policy that is listed in the event id
error - not any of the other GPOs - so I disabled it and
moved some of the more important stuff down to the other
GPOs. That did not help - I still got the same errors with
the same Domain GPO SID listed.

There is one thing I have not tried which was mentioned
here in this forum. I have not turned on file sharing on
the clients and offline folders are switched off. This was
the way the clients were configured before (this is a
school, after all, where file sharing cannot be allowed
under any circumstances because of tests and exams, which
are all taking on the computer) and it worked fine under
w2k. I cannot see that this should affect the network load
which the AD machine is placed under in anyway. The AD
runs integrated DNS and DHCP. There are no other services
running on the AD machine besides LanSafe (UPS) and
TrendMicro Server Protect, but the SYSVOL folder is
excluded in its entirety from virus scans.

Perhaps someone in this forum can see something that I am
missing. I would appreciate any advice.



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