Re: Ping Mike Williams Questions on SP2 adms
From: Mark Williams [MSFT] (markwill_at_online.microsoft.com)
Date: 08/16/04
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 08:36:03 -0700
My bad - thanks for pointing this out Brian.
-- Mark Williams Program Manager, Group Policy http://www.microsoft.com/technet/grouppolicy This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. "Brian Desmond [MVP]" <desmondb@payton.cps.k12.il.us> wrote in message news:u4Rm%23ljgEHA.2492@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... > Those settings won't fix you're problem. They're for the Windows Messenger > program, not the messenger service. > > For the service, I would open a domain level (or whereever applicable) > GPO, > and go into the service settings section, and force Messenger to Automatic > Started. > > -- > -- > Brian Desmond > Windows Server MVP > desmondb@payton.cps.k12.il.us > > http://www.briandesmond.com > > > "Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rkircher@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message > news:uKSvVZ8fEHA.592@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> Thanks for the reply Mark, I had a high school mate many years ago named >> Michael Thomas or Thomas Michael.. I honestly can't remember. >> >> I'll look for the Messenger setting. >> >> I'll also follow the feedback link and make my suggestions. I assume I > can >> write my own .adm file to adjust the desktop as I need but I was hoping > not >> to have to go through that pain since I've never done it before. ;-) >> >> BTW: somebody need to pass you end user wisdom back to the developers so >> that these things are available at release and not after constant >> customer >> complaints. ;-) >> >> Thanks again. >> >> -- >> >> Rob >> >> >> "Mark Williams [MSFT]" <markwill@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:e3O6VO8fEHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> > No problem on the name. My manager has a name where the first and > surname >> > can be switched and it still makes sense - he gets it far worse than I > do >> > :-) >> > >> > Thanks for your feedback, Rob. I tend to agree that there are a >> > significant number of areas in which the desktop can be better policy >> > enabled. For future reference, a formalized mechanism to suggest these >> > sorts of additions is the http://www.windowsserverfeedback.com site, > which >> > will wind its way directly back to the appropriate component team. And >> > I >> > agree with you about the importance of seemingly minor UI elements. As > IT >> > Pros I think it's all too easy for us to just assume that the end user > can >> > find a replacement process or tool when something goes missing. But, >> > frankly, they don't care - their view of the computer is that its a >> > tool >> > to be used to achieve a business purpose and all the fancy UI widgets >> > in >> > the world won't make life easier unless there is a smooth, well >> > articulated transition. >> > >> > To answer your question about the Messenger service, please take a look > at >> > the Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Messenger\Do >> > not >> > allow Windows Messenger to be run policy setting. The Explain text is >> > as >> > follows, which implies that Disabling this policy setting may give you >> > what you need (keep in mind that my team doesn't implement these policy >> > settings so I am only going from what I read here). I am sure there are >> > other policy settings you will also have to enable, related to the > Windows >> > Firewall. >> > >> > Allows you to disable Windows Messenger. If you enable this > setting, >> > Windows Messenger will not run. If you disable or do not configure >> > this >> > setting, Windows Messenger can be used. Note: If you enable this > setting, >> > Remote Assistance also cannot use Windows Messenger. Note: This >> > setting >> > is available under both Computer Configuration and User Configuration. > If >> > both are present, the Computer Configuration version of this setting > takes >> > precedence. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Mark Williams >> > Program Manager, Group Policy >> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/grouppolicy >> > >> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> > rights. >> > "Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rkircher@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message >> > news:uyQpnG7fEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> >> "joust in jest" <joust in jest@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:O1m1zB5fEHA.3272@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >> >>> Richard: >> >>> >> >>> When addressing someone directly, it is often useful to use their >> >>> correct >> >>> name. Think how much nicer you would have thought of me if I had >> >>> addressed >> >>> you as "Robert", rather than as "Richard". >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> First, I apologize to Mark for getting his name wrong. >> >> >> >> Second, I would think much higher of you if you would try to be >> >> helpful >> >> instead of making a big deal out of an honest mistake. >> >> >> >> In any event my points still remain. I'd like to see better On/Off >> >> control of items like desktop icons and tool bars. As it is now XP >> >> installs with the Icon off and the GPs only allow me to REMOVE the > icons >> >> from the desktop. I'd like to add them back without having to use the >> >> Classic Start menu. XP also by default removes the Quick Launch tool > bar >> >> and I haven't found a way to put it back using GPOs. >> >> >> >> Being able to control these items will make the user transition from >> >> Win2K to XP much easier, if not seamless. I can't tell you how many >> >> support calls I've already received from the folks regarding the loss > of >> >> the Quick Launch toolbar. As silly as it sounds the simple loss of a >> >> tool bar can be quite disconcerting to the users and time consuming >> >> for >> >> the IT department and support staff. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >
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