Re: Ping Mike Williams Questions on SP2 adms

From: Brian Desmond [MVP] (desmondb_at_payton.cps.k12.il.us)
Date: 08/14/04


Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 15:08:07 -0500

Those settings won't fix you're problem. They're for the Windows Messenger
program, not the messenger service.

For the service, I would open a domain level (or whereever applicable) GPO,
and go into the service settings section, and force Messenger to Automatic
Started.

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-- 
Brian Desmond
Windows Server MVP
desmondb@payton.cps.k12.il.us
http://www.briandesmond.com
"Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rkircher@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:uKSvVZ8fEHA.592@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the reply Mark, I had a high school mate many years ago named
> Michael Thomas or Thomas Michael..  I honestly can't remember.
>
> I'll look for the Messenger setting.
>
> I'll also follow the feedback link and make my suggestions.  I assume I
can
> write my own .adm file to adjust the desktop as I need but I was hoping
not
> to have to go through that pain since I've never done it before. ;-)
>
> BTW: somebody need to pass you end user wisdom back to the developers so
> that these things are available at release and not after constant customer
> complaints.  ;-)
>
> Thanks again.
>
> -- 
>
> Rob
>
>
> "Mark Williams [MSFT]" <markwill@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:e3O6VO8fEHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > No problem on the name. My manager has a name where the first and
surname
> > can be switched and it still makes sense - he gets it far worse than I
do
> > :-)
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback, Rob. I tend to agree that there are a
> > significant number of areas in which the desktop can be better policy
> > enabled. For future reference, a formalized mechanism to suggest these
> > sorts of additions is the http://www.windowsserverfeedback.com site,
which
> > will wind its way directly back to the appropriate component team. And I
> > agree with you about the importance of seemingly minor UI elements. As
IT
> > Pros I think it's all too easy for us to just assume that the end user
can
> > find a replacement process or tool when something goes missing. But,
> > frankly, they don't care - their view of the computer is that its a tool
> > to be used to achieve a business purpose and all the fancy UI widgets in
> > the world won't make life easier unless there is a smooth, well
> > articulated transition.
> >
> > To answer your question about the Messenger service, please take a look
at
> > the Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Messenger\Do not
> > allow Windows Messenger to be run policy setting. The Explain text is as
> > follows, which implies that Disabling this policy setting may give you
> > what you need (keep in mind that my team doesn't implement these policy
> > settings so I am only going from what I read here). I am sure there are
> > other policy settings you will also have to enable, related to the
Windows
> > Firewall.
> >
> >      Allows you to disable Windows Messenger.  If you enable this
setting,
> > Windows Messenger will not run.  If you disable or do not configure this
> > setting, Windows Messenger can be used.  Note: If you enable this
setting,
> > Remote Assistance also cannot use Windows Messenger.  Note: This setting
> > is available under both Computer Configuration and User Configuration.
If
> > both are present, the Computer Configuration version of this setting
takes
> > precedence.
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Mark Williams
> > Program Manager, Group Policy
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/grouppolicy
> >
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > rights.
> > "Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rkircher@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
> > news:uyQpnG7fEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> "joust in jest" <joust in jest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:O1m1zB5fEHA.3272@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >>> Richard:
> >>>
> >>> When addressing someone directly, it is often useful to use their
> >>> correct
> >>> name. Think how much nicer you would have thought of me if I had
> >>> addressed
> >>> you as "Robert", rather than as "Richard".
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> First, I apologize to Mark for getting his name wrong.
> >>
> >> Second, I would think much higher of you if you would try to be helpful
> >> instead of making a big deal out of an honest mistake.
> >>
> >> In any event my points still remain.  I'd like to see better On/Off
> >> control of items like desktop icons and tool bars.  As it is now XP
> >> installs with the Icon off and the GPs only allow me to REMOVE the
icons
> >> from the desktop. I'd like to add them back without having to use the
> >> Classic Start menu.  XP also by default removes the Quick Launch tool
bar
> >> and I haven't found a way to put it back using GPOs.
> >>
> >> Being able to control these items will make the user transition from
> >> Win2K to XP much easier, if not seamless.  I can't tell you how many
> >> support calls I've already received from the folks regarding the loss
of
> >> the Quick Launch toolbar.  As silly as it sounds the simple loss of a
> >> tool bar can be quite disconcerting to the users and time consuming for
> >> the IT department and support staff.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


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