Re: Ping Mike Williams Questions on SP2 adms
From: Brian Desmond [MVP] (desmondb_at_payton.cps.k12.il.us)
Date: 08/14/04
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 15:08:07 -0500
Those settings won't fix you're problem. They're for the Windows Messenger
program, not the messenger service.
For the service, I would open a domain level (or whereever applicable) GPO,
and go into the service settings section, and force Messenger to Automatic
Started.
-- -- Brian Desmond Windows Server MVP desmondb@payton.cps.k12.il.us http://www.briandesmond.com "Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rkircher@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message news:uKSvVZ8fEHA.592@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > Thanks for the reply Mark, I had a high school mate many years ago named > Michael Thomas or Thomas Michael.. I honestly can't remember. > > I'll look for the Messenger setting. > > I'll also follow the feedback link and make my suggestions. I assume I can > write my own .adm file to adjust the desktop as I need but I was hoping not > to have to go through that pain since I've never done it before. ;-) > > BTW: somebody need to pass you end user wisdom back to the developers so > that these things are available at release and not after constant customer > complaints. ;-) > > Thanks again. > > -- > > Rob > > > "Mark Williams [MSFT]" <markwill@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:e3O6VO8fEHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > No problem on the name. My manager has a name where the first and surname > > can be switched and it still makes sense - he gets it far worse than I do > > :-) > > > > Thanks for your feedback, Rob. I tend to agree that there are a > > significant number of areas in which the desktop can be better policy > > enabled. For future reference, a formalized mechanism to suggest these > > sorts of additions is the http://www.windowsserverfeedback.com site, which > > will wind its way directly back to the appropriate component team. And I > > agree with you about the importance of seemingly minor UI elements. As IT > > Pros I think it's all too easy for us to just assume that the end user can > > find a replacement process or tool when something goes missing. But, > > frankly, they don't care - their view of the computer is that its a tool > > to be used to achieve a business purpose and all the fancy UI widgets in > > the world won't make life easier unless there is a smooth, well > > articulated transition. > > > > To answer your question about the Messenger service, please take a look at > > the Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Messenger\Do not > > allow Windows Messenger to be run policy setting. The Explain text is as > > follows, which implies that Disabling this policy setting may give you > > what you need (keep in mind that my team doesn't implement these policy > > settings so I am only going from what I read here). I am sure there are > > other policy settings you will also have to enable, related to the Windows > > Firewall. > > > > Allows you to disable Windows Messenger. If you enable this setting, > > Windows Messenger will not run. If you disable or do not configure this > > setting, Windows Messenger can be used. Note: If you enable this setting, > > Remote Assistance also cannot use Windows Messenger. Note: This setting > > is available under both Computer Configuration and User Configuration. If > > both are present, the Computer Configuration version of this setting takes > > precedence. > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark Williams > > Program Manager, Group Policy > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/grouppolicy > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no > > rights. > > "Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rkircher@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message > > news:uyQpnG7fEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > >> "joust in jest" <joust in jest@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >> news:O1m1zB5fEHA.3272@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > >>> Richard: > >>> > >>> When addressing someone directly, it is often useful to use their > >>> correct > >>> name. Think how much nicer you would have thought of me if I had > >>> addressed > >>> you as "Robert", rather than as "Richard". > >>> > >> > >> > >> First, I apologize to Mark for getting his name wrong. > >> > >> Second, I would think much higher of you if you would try to be helpful > >> instead of making a big deal out of an honest mistake. > >> > >> In any event my points still remain. I'd like to see better On/Off > >> control of items like desktop icons and tool bars. As it is now XP > >> installs with the Icon off and the GPs only allow me to REMOVE the icons > >> from the desktop. I'd like to add them back without having to use the > >> Classic Start menu. XP also by default removes the Quick Launch tool bar > >> and I haven't found a way to put it back using GPOs. > >> > >> Being able to control these items will make the user transition from > >> Win2K to XP much easier, if not seamless. I can't tell you how many > >> support calls I've already received from the folks regarding the loss of > >> the Quick Launch toolbar. As silly as it sounds the simple loss of a > >> tool bar can be quite disconcerting to the users and time consuming for > >> the IT department and support staff. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Rob > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >
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