Re: pagefile
- From: "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:24:52 -0500
Hi, Hugh.
Last question first: Unless you know WHY you are clinging to FAT32, use NTFS all the way with Win2K and later.
And a slight correction that may not matter here, but is important to the understanding of this topic:
I have 2Gig of DDR memory & a 160GIG C: drive partitioned C: & D
No. Drive C: cannot be further partitioned. Look in Disk Management and you should see that you have "Disk 0" partitioned as C: and D:, and "Disk 1" has a single partition assigned Drive E:. That's a common mistake and we know what you probably mean, but it gets in the way of communication.
You didn't say, so I'll guess: Your Drive C: is labeled both "Boot" and "System". BOTH C: and E: are labeled "Page File". Drive C: may also be labeled "Crash Dump", but I don't recall for sure if WinXP has that label.
The Dump file needs to be in %SystemRoot% (C:\Windows); that's why even a System Managed page file will always put a minimal (200 MB?) page file on C:; if you try to Set a smaller size on C:, you well get an "are you sure" message. The rest of the page file can be wherever you have room, and it can be divided into several smaller page files on different drives.
Did you actually READ the Virtual Memory article that I've given you twice now? Or the one that John gave you for NTFS v. FAT? Both are several years old, but the discussions are still valid and valuable.
In "olden times", we (including myself) spent a lot of time worrying about the page file. But WinXP is so much better at managing this than previous Windows versions, and Vista is better still. So I've left my setting at System Managed for at least a couple of years now and never have to worry about these things anymore. Try it for a while; if you don't like it, you can always change it later.
My advice is to study what you can find about page files for WinXP (NOT for Win9x or other older Windows versions!) and then, unless you know WHY your needs are different, just go with System Managed. "And leave the driving to us!" ;<)
RC
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"Hugh Sutherland" <hsutherland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:eF2q8RbAJHA.4476@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
ok I have WIN XP and a C: pagefile of Initial 2 and Max 50 and a 2nd HD of initial 3072 & max 4096 (cause thats as big as a page file can get). By the way I have 2Gig of DDR memory & a 160GIG C: drive partitioned C: & D and the 2nd HD is FAT32 E: where the other page file is.
Should both page files be system managed or custome managed? and shoukld the big page file be on a fat32 or NTFS partition?
Hugh
"R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:OSe7eSNAJHA.4816@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxHi, Hugh.
Good to see you here. ;^} But you still didn't mention your operating system. Since you are using OE 6, you apparently are running WinXP.
All the read/write heads on a physical hard drive are locked together in a "gang" and all move in unison. So to move from wherever they are working to a page file on the same HDD, the whole gang has to move, then come back to the original workplace. When you have a second HD, you have a second set of heads. One set can be reading on Disk 0 while the second is writing on Disk 1. So, yes, putting your page file on the second HD makes a lot of sense. Unless, of course, you are running an app on the same HD where the page file is. It's very hard to organize around this problem completely, but overall, you should get some speed increase from the arrangement.
No matter where you put the bulk of the page file, though, at least a small part of it should remain on you system drive to hold the error log in case of a blue-screen failure. As it says in that article I gave you the link for earlier (Virtual Memory in Windows XP; http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm), go to Control Panel | System | Advanced and set your preferences. WinXP (and Vista) are much better at managing the page file than previous Windows versions, so I always set it to System Managed.
There are those who debate the merits of a dedicated partition, but I believe the consensus is that it seldom is necessary or helpful. And if it is a hidden partition with no drive letter, how will WinXP find it and use it?
RC
"Hugh Sutherland" <hsutherland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:#ykth9MAJHA.4588@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxI want to put my pagefile(swapfile) on a second hard drive. Should that
pagefile be on a NTFS or FAT32 partition? also would it make sense to make
a hidden partition (no drive letter) say max 4096MB atthe staert or the end
of the second harddrive?
Hugh
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