Re: Windows Vista Forum
- From: "William Anderson" <wanderson75@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 07:42:05 -0700
I wanna be an MVP when I grow up :-)
--
~My work is a game, a very serious game.
M. C. Escher (1898 - 1972)
"Samuel" wrote:
> Well that's just the thing, people do have the betas, and are posting screen
> shots and how things work. But right now MS in a variety of areas are asking
> for feedback, I subscribe to Channel 9 forums, I'm sure you've heard of them
> - MS workers visit the forums to see how their interview fell on the viewers.
>
> Right now is a golden time to start getting feedback for the product,
> putting a forum up when Vista ships will be too late, why make changes after
> when they can be made during the development stage.
>
> Having said that I know there are so many feature requests pilled in all
> year round with ones left over from what did not make it before, but it
> couldn't hurt to have a central official place to discuss Vista. Sometimes
> the best ideas come from people with no understanding or experience and seem
> as though that everybody what have MS to loose, they do what excitement
> before the launch don't they.
>
> Samuel
>
> "R. C. White" wrote:
>
> > Hi, Samuel.
> >
> > I should have given you this link, too:
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
> >
> > When I was proposed for the MVP award a couple of years ago, I was concerned
> > about 3 points:
> >
> > 1. Adding MVP after my name might make my advice carry more weight than it
> > deserved, since I did not have to take any courses or pass any exams or
> > demonstrate competence in any way except by continuing mostly-successful
> > efforts to help others in these newsgroups. That remains a worry to me, but
> > it has not seemed to be a problem.
> >
> > 2. It might appear that I speak for Microsoft, and I most certainly don't.
> > Even if I wanted to, I'm not authorized by Microsoft to speak for the
> > company in any way.
> >
> > 3. I did not want to be gagged by Microsoft, or obligated to use their
> > products. As I said earlier, MVPs fiercely guard our right to criticize
> > Microsoft, both in private and in public. While we generally do use
> > Microsoft products, of course (as do practically all PC users worldwide!),
> > most of us also many other products, some in direct competition with
> > Microsoft. (I use Quicken, not Money; many MVPs use Linux; the list is just
> > about endless.)
> >
> > When I was assured about those points, I accepted the award - and I'm very
> > glad I did! I've met dozens (hundreds?) of other MVPs from around the
> > world, both online and at the annual Global Summit in Redmond. None of us
> > get paid by Microsoft. We do get access to some things, such as the
> > opportunity to participate in testing some Microsoft products, such as the
> > Vista Beta (but we have to promise not to talk about that prematurely). We
> > spend hours every day volunteering here, trying to pay back for the help
> > that we got when we were starting up the learning curve. Most (all?) of us
> > were doing that for years BEFORE we received the MVP award - and we will
> > continue helping, even if we don't qualify for the award next year.
> >
> > Our reputation depends on our continuing usefulness to the PC community.
> > Not on our loyalty to Microsoft.
> >
> > > there should be
> > > an email signup on the vista page link you sent so that when a forum
> > > appears
> > > those signed up will be notified.
> >
> > Maybe, but there's not much point until Vista goes public, probably in late
> > 2006. Until then, the only people who know anything are bound by NDA - and
> > already have access to private Vista groups. Others can't use any
> > information they might get because they don't have Vista. So any public
> > forum would necessarily be filled with nothing but speculation and rumors -
> > and unanswered questions. When Vista does go public, everybody will know.
> >
> > As with any beta program, those who know can't say. Those who say don't
> > really know. The less you know, the more you can say. :^{
> >
> > RC
> > --
> > R. C. White, CPA
> > San Marcos, TX
> > rc@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Microsoft Windows MVP
> >
> > "Samuel" <Samuel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:7327489E-8021-4A02-896E-891D0A2A59FE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Thanks for the link but I have been there already, I see bits are being
> > > added
> > > all the time but really until Beta 2 its probrably going to be all
> > > marketing
> > > hype.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the MVP info, I thought they were from MS, anyway there should
> > > be
> > > an email signup on the vista page link you sent so that when a forum
> > > appears
> > > those signed up will be notified.
> > >
> > > Samuel, UK
> > >
> > > "R. C. White" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi, Samuel.
> > >>
> > >> >> > Can anyone of the MVP officials please tell me when the Vista forum
> > >> >> > will
> > >> >> > appear?
> > >>
> > >> First of all, MVPs are NOT officials for Microsoft! One of the things
> > >> that
> > >> we MVPs guard most jealously is our independence, especially from
> > >> Microsoft.
> > >> We do NOT speak for MS. We do get advance notice of some things, but the
> > >> NDAs (Non-Disclosure Agreements) that we signed obligate us to not
> > >> discuss
> > >> anything that has not been already made public.
> > >>
> > >> The Vista Beta 1 is more open to the public than most, so you should be
> > >> able
> > >> to learn much about it directly from official MS sites. Start here:
> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/default.mspx
> > >>
> > >> As of moments ago, I found NO public NGs on the MS public news server
> > >> with
> > >> "vista" or "longhorn" in their names.
> > >>
> > >> RC
> > >>
> > >> "Samuel" <Samuel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> news:20F3A624-5B19-40C0-B392-E504F1C20D50@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> > thanks very much, but I'd much rather hang on for the official forum
> > >> > here
> > >> > on
> > >> > the MS site. If anyone has any clues about that I think an option to
> > >> > sign
> > >> > up
> > >> > and be notified on the MS site would be good, hint, hint
> > >> >
> > >> > Samuel, UK
> > >> >
> > >> > "sydlod@xxxxxxxxxxx" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Try
> > >> >>
> > >> >> http://www.vistabb.com/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It is a forum about the Microsoft Windows Vista operating system.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Samuel wrote:
> > >> >> > Can anyone of the MVP officials please tell me when the Vista forum
> > >> >> > will
> > >> >> > appear? I would like to ask questions about it as I will not get a
> > >> >> > chance to
> > >> >> > test it.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
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