Re: copssh, WinScp, Tunnelier, Etc.

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What was it again I was trying to do?

Uhhh... offer the ability to share files remotely in a secure way.

I guess, for whatever reason, you need an explanation of this need.

It is for business purposes and has to do with documents which pertain to
legal issues.

Is that specific enough for you?

Is that the "big secret" you were looking to be revealed?

On my end, I still understand why the below from my original post wasn't
clear enough for you:

I am seeking a secure way to share files with other computers

No, I don't need security to share family photo albums. However, if I felt
there was a "need for extra security", I don't think that any further
explanation should be required.





"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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desktop user wrote:
I am seeking a secure way to share files with other computers. I
was directed to copssh and WinScp or Tunnelier.

I'm having a couple of issues. First, the copssh service which
appears to have been installed does not match that as stated during
the copssh installation. The service I have is Openssh SSHD but
during installation it said it would be SvcCopSSH or something like
that.
Second, OK, I've installed copssh... now what? I looked through
documentation but I see nothing regarding ports, passwords, etc.
that specifically tells me what I'm supposed to do (i.e. use the
machine's IP address? Network username & password, etc.)?

Third, with the WinScp documentation, it's similar. It doesn't tell
you where these credentials are to come from.

The above said, where does one obtain the IP address / Host name
for use with
the client application, what credentials are required, where do the
credentials come from?

Lastly, it is also not clear what file folders are available?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
Still don't want to state specifically what it is you are trying to
do? I'd have to guess an illegitimate software site at this
point... ? Would explain the hesitance in explaining the purpose
and the change in name for a new posting.

Does RoadRunner (in your area/for your service) allow transfers
over some ports? Are you trying to set it up so you can use the
ports they do allow?
copssh is an ssh server and client implementation for windows
systems. As a server, it just allows you - with some configuration
of another app - to (more) securely do whatever it was you were
trying to do before. (FTP, Remote Desktop, file transfer, etc) It
gets its information from the machine it is running on and the
setup you do on it (from reading up on it.)
WinSCP/Tunnelier <- Clients. You get the IP from the site you are
trying to connect to and the credentials (username/password) from
the management of the site.

Are these the instructions you are trying to follow?
http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/Ssh/RemoteDesktopSSH.html

You do realize you are now securing the computers for Remote
Desktop (only available in the 'professionally oriented' Windows
OSes.) not just for file transfers (although - the Remote Desktop
implentation *is* encrypted, possibly vulnerable to a
man-in-the-middle attack without the extra protection above,
although NLA (Vista and above) eliminates the possibility of that
problem fairly well - so it seems...)

desktop user wrote:
To be completely honest, I changed the name for this post in an
effort to avoid and your condescending remarks.

Why bother responding to a newsgroup if you're main goal is to rip
someone a new one?

Actually, I stated quite clearly what I wanted to do... perhaps you
should take to the time to actually read the entire post and let it
sink in:
To reiterate:

am seeking a secure way to share files with other computers.

I'm not sure how much more clear I can be than the above!!!

Anyway, thanks for the condescension. It was just what I was
looking for and just what I needed.

Not condescending at all. If you feel that way, so be it. I still say...

I asked an honest question and yet you still avoid it. I do not
understand your avoidance of a simple question. Your answer (as I pointed
out before) is incomplete. If you provide adequate information on what
specifically you are trying to accomplish - someone here will be more
likely to assist you.

- What type of files are you trying to share with other computers?
- Is there a need for extra security?
- Will those accessing said files be technologically savvy or just normal
users of technology?
- Does the file transfer go both ways and with both ways having
full/partial control of the file/folder system you choose?

The situation dictates the best way to do it. In general - I find that
putting things on the web and then sending people a link to the page (with
them having an account with a password) to be the most efficient way to
transfer files to someone. It puts more control in the hands of the
person
I am sending the files to and frees up more of my time since I only have
to transfer said files to the location once. It is a similar idea to
FTP - but
done correctly on a site using SSL - much more secure and for many
non-computer-literate people, much simpler.

What I am transferring and to whom makes a huge difference in the 'best
way'
to do things. A file that I want to stay private/secure? A picture I
could
care less if everyone in the world saw? My grandparents versus my
computer-savvy friends? To many people or to a select few? Do I have
access to the resources I would need to use the 'best way'?

If I need two-way capabilities - I have used FTP in the past, but there
are many
web-based solutions as well. There are even web sites that allow you to
put
up files and share them for anyone or just those that have the account
information... Some free.

If you are just trying to send files between friends/family - and it is
just
a few files - likely IM file transfer will be fine. If you are sending
DoD
documents - likely it won't be. If you are remotely controlling a PC and
need to get files to it - the better remote software has encrypted ways to
do this. If you are sharing pictures - use something like Picasa. You
can
send a decent sized email via GMail...

What is it, again, you are attempting to do?

I cannot be more clear than that. I am simply trying to help you help
yourself.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html



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