Re: A FREE, EASIER alternative to Remote Desktop....


"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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ljh wrote:
Perhaps Shehan is not a zealot.

However, when Mr. Stanley tells you that "The difference is not
that there is no firewall settings - it just does it for you during
the install or it may ask you during the first use." he is either
lying or ignorant of the product.

I may have seen his ignorance as the act of a zealot. If I have, I
apologize for that.

If you do not all the change in the firewall (if it asks) to allow for the
exceptions mentioned in the FAQ then logmein is rendered worthless..
correct?

In a scenario where you have installed a 3rd party app to intentionally
block all access to the internet from all applications, you may be
challenged by that application to allow Logmein through - but this change is
not controlled by or changed by Logmein as you stated in your first post.

Your assertion was that Logmein changed your firewall settings. You said
"it just does it for you during the install or it may ask you during the
first use" . That is the vain in which I read all of your subsequent
correspondence on the matter of firewalls and Logmein.

As your first statement "...it just does it for you during the install or it
may ask you during the first use" was false (Logmein does NOT change your
firewall settings - no matter what firewall you are using), your subsequent
statements were simply an attempt to prop up the original false assumption
on your part.

Your staement meant that Logmein changed a users firewall settings
(Something that, if even possible, would be a very, very bad thing for any
software to do.) could make it seem that Logmein is taking liberties with
your system that it should not and that it is insecure. It does not. It is
not. It is more secure than RDP.

LOGMEIN DOES NOT MAKE FIREWALL CHANGES - PERIOD! And, as the VAST majority
of users have NOT taken steps to l*** down thier machines with Zone Alarm or
other anal firewall technologies, no firewall changes are needed. Logmein
certainly does not require any special setup to work PC to PC across the
internet.

Therefore - while my wording may have been bad - the LogMeIn application
is responsible for the ultimate reaction of the firewall. If it was not
installed, was not ran - there would be no changes in the firewall.

You stated the product required "no firewall settings". You did not say
"Windows XP Firewall". You said "Firewall". You install it on a system
with a proper two-way firewall, and you watch it request the change and
make the change you tell it to.. That is a "firewall setting" - so your
statement of "no firewall setting" is still incorrect.

That was the point in the beginning - that is the point now.

That is not the point. That is not what you said in your original post.
You said that Logmein changed the firewall settings. That is what I took
exception to - and I still do.

Logmein does NOT change your firewall settings. Now you are trying to
change the meaning of your perfectly understandable statement "it just does
it for you during the install or it may ask you during the first use."

Evidentially, it is of some supreme importance to you to be right -
regardless of what you actually said. (This is not uncommon among
MS-"MVP"s, although it is very sad.)

I don't really care. Paper tigers are a dime a dozen out here and I have
actual work to accomplish.

The people that can think will try Logmein Free (and perhaps VNC and others)
and decide if it works for themselves. Those who value the letters "MVP"
will let someone else think for them - and that's fine too (they'll learn
better as they go along).

I don't ask anyone to believe me.....rather that they test me by trying it
for themselves. It is used by over 1,000,000 people daily and it is free to
try at www.logmein.com.

I have tried it. I love it. I use it daily. I recommend it
wholeheartedly.

I have tried to reason with you. It is futile. I am finished with you Mr.
Stanley.

ljh


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