Re: Rolling back Computer device in device manager (hal.dll) after installing SP2 gives BSOD after restarting?
- From: <cuentanewslabogel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:05:02 +0200
Well, this is your opinion which I respect.
However, in my world, that is my REAL word, I cannot afford to create 15
different ghost images for 15 differents motherboards.
I create a single image for all mi IntelChipset PIV computers, I test, and
everything works fine. (I can assure this to you, 2 years since XP deployed
in 10's of workstations, and 0 incidences related to this problem)
The only problem I have had until now has been the problem I described in my
earlier postings...
The best solution is the solution that suits my needs.
"Walter Clayton" <w-claytonNO@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió en el mensaje
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> <cuentanewslabogel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Yes, in part I agree with you, we've allways done that with Intel
>> Chipsets, in similar models.
>
> You're walking on thin ice. Similar models means what? Same chipset *and*
> rev *and* BIOS level, or just a chipset that happens to be from the same
> vendor and it's 'close enough' because it's of the same generation and has
> the same feature set, approximately?
>
>>
>> I'd never do that from VIA Chipsets to Intel, or viceversa without a
>> repair CD...
>
> And the reasons why you do repair installs in that instance is the same
> reason why you do a repair when swapping between Intel chipsets that
> support SMP/HT/APIC and those that don't. The fact that you're not
> changing vendor does not make it safe.
>
>>
>>>
>>> You want pre-SP2 kernel code to run with SP2 code. Why do you think that
>>> should be possible?
>>
>> Then why is it possible to rollback the driver in Windows XP SP2 GUI? I'm
>> doing something unsupported via the XP GUI? If it is unsupported, then
>> gray it out in device manager!!
>
>
> *Some* drivers are the same, especially peripherals and/or 3rd party. MS
> has to draw the line somewhere and assume at least a modicum of
> intelligence on the part of someone messing around with drivers. The sole
> intent of driver roll back is if something goes splat immediately after
> installing a driver (or shortly there after). If you've been running a
> driver for more than a few days, rolling it back, *might* become
> problematic depending on what else has been updated in the interim.
>
> There are also reason why it can be necessary to change the HAL sans
> setup. For example, remotely troubleshooting a suspected failing processor
> on an headless SMP server. In this instance there is no change in the
> chipset or enumeration; you're simply disabling one of the processors.
> However switching between an ACPI HAL and a standard HAL is dangerous.
>
> Playing with drivers is a crap shoot. Always has been and always will be.
> Playing with drivers at the abstraction layer is a real crap shoot
> especially if you're trying to cross service pack levels.
>
> --
> Walter Clayton
> Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
>
>
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