Re: XP home edition refuses to load after changing mother board

"Nanookaloo" <Nanookaloo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Basically, how I understand it, most significant hardware components give
> votes and a way of generating a product activation number reported back to
> MS
> servers for authentication. It is an insane, but rightly paranoid way of
> checking if people really HAVE paid blood money for, lets face it, the OS
> everybody must have. As it is explained, it also applies to OEM
> installations. And why should it not, one should be able to make upgrades,
> having a completely "fine" OS that should not need to be bought AGAIN when
> having only ONE installation on ONE machine. The EULA gives the right to
> transfer the OS when giving or selling your machine, so why should it not
> apply if you are having nature calling through the wires on your mobo? It
> is
> not pirating.
>


The EULA for an OEM edition of Windows XP does not allow the transfer or
resale of the license for the OS as it is part of the original OEM PC it was
installed to.
When that PC is no longer the machine the OEM shipped or is willing to
support then the license also is gone.
This is one reason why POEM license are considerably cheaper then retail
ones. They are one time use/non transferable license.



> The following is an excerpt from http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm dealing
> with the technicalities of XP WPA (Windows Product Activation). Does it
> fly?
>
> "Changing the motherboard
> Installing a replacement motherboard will change the IDE controller, and
> usually will mean that you change to a new, faster, processor. If the
> processor is one with a serial number (Pentium III), then you lose a third
> vote - including when you change to a processor with no serial number,
> such
> as an Athlon. If you also add RAM, or if the motherboard is one with an
> on-board SCSI adapter, that makes four or five categories now voting No -
> you
> would need an unchanged NIC to avoid having to call in for reactivation.
> If
> the new motherboard also has inbuilt video (and possibly even a NIC of its
> own!), you run right out of Yes votes with this one hardware change.
>
> Again, this doesn't stop you from making such a hardware change, nor from
> using Windows XP thereafter. The phone-in reactivation option was created
> for
> just this type of situation. Also, this is an extreme example. Due to the
> onboard features of some motherboards, this one hardware change is
> equivalent
> to several changes at once."
>
> Visit the page and get some useful information.
>
> Nanookalook

That page is all well and good when talking about Retail software - the
licensing for OEM products IS different.
If you have an issue with the license on your OEM PC then contact the OEM.

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"Nanookaloo" <Nanookaloo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:173C17F7-D529-483A-8BA3-6F32C334A769@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Basically, how I understand it, most significant hardware components give
> votes and a way of generating a product activation number reported back to
> MS
> servers for authentication. It is an insane, but rightly paranoid way of
> checking if people really HAVE paid blood money for, lets face it, the OS
> everybody must have. As it is explained, it also applies to OEM
> installations. And why should it not, one should be able to make upgrades,
> having a completely "fine" OS that should not need to be bought AGAIN when
> having only ONE installation on ONE machine. The EULA gives the right to
> transfer the OS when giving or selling your machine, so why should it not
> apply if you are having nature calling through the wires on your mobo? It
> is
> not pirating.
>
> The following is an excerpt from http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm dealing
> with the technicalities of XP WPA (Windows Product Activation). Does it
> fly?
>
> "Changing the motherboard
> Installing a replacement motherboard will change the IDE controller, and
> usually will mean that you change to a new, faster, processor. If the
> processor is one with a serial number (Pentium III), then you lose a third
> vote - including when you change to a processor with no serial number,
> such
> as an Athlon. If you also add RAM, or if the motherboard is one with an
> on-board SCSI adapter, that makes four or five categories now voting No -
> you
> would need an unchanged NIC to avoid having to call in for reactivation.
> If
> the new motherboard also has inbuilt video (and possibly even a NIC of its
> own!), you run right out of Yes votes with this one hardware change.
>
> Again, this doesn't stop you from making such a hardware change, nor from
> using Windows XP thereafter. The phone-in reactivation option was created
> for
> just this type of situation. Also, this is an extreme example. Due to the
> onboard features of some motherboards, this one hardware change is
> equivalent
> to several changes at once."
>
> Visit the page and get some useful information.
>
> Nanookalook
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> If Windows XP was preinstalled by eMachine and you
>> did not replace the defective motherboard with the exact
>> eMachine replacement, your eMachine version of Windows
>> XP is not going to activate since it is looking for the same BIOS.
>> All you can do is to purchase a conventional "Full Version" of
>> Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".
>>
>> A preinstalled OEM version of Windows XP cannot be used
>> with a different type of motherboard. The license is tied to
>> a specific motherboard model and BIOS and cannot be transferred.
>> Also, the Windows XP Product Key provided with your eMachine
>> computer will not work with any other Windows XP CD.
>>
>> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.­com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>>
>> Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>> Microsoft Newsgroups
>>
>> Get Windows XP Service Pack 2 with Advanced Security Technologies:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "David Shehadeh" wrote:
>>
>> | XP was installed by emachine that was zapped by lightining. After
>> repalcing
>> | the mother board with a generic brand, XP refuses to load it keep
>> saying that
>> | this is not an emachine. Tried to load from another CD and to use the
>> legal
>> | emachine software key, the process did not work. Called Microsoft they
>> say
>> | that this is two years old warranty expired, they wanted 35 dollars for
>> | technical help. I do not believe this is fair. Appreciate any help in
>> the
>> | mean time, the new ivestment in the new mopther board have to wait till
>> I
>> | will be able to buy an operating system. Thank for any help you may
>> provide.
>> |
>> | Dvid Shehadeh
>>
>>


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