Re: Upgrade and partition questions
From: Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\) (mike.hall.mail_at_sympatico.ca)
Date: 02/22/05
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:19:47 -0500
Colin
Nicely put.. way to go..
I took me three hours and more to get my post out.. I typed a bit, then had
to rescue somebody from a snowdrift, and then sort a power failure out at my
mother-in-laws house.. by the time that I arrived back, I was pooped..
looked at the screen.. my reply was still there waiting.. looked at what I
had typed.. hit send on the basis that I could clarify in another post if
asked so to do..
David
Older computer systems produced by the big names are often a problem when
upgrading.. while they may use 'named' motherboards, they have their own
signatures built into their specific requirements by whoever the board
manufacturer is.. in part, this ensures that owners of such systems become
reliant on the vendor.. in this way, if a Dell user wants to hardware or
software upgrade, they will use Dell and pay their prices..
A case in point here is the inability of some Dell models not accepting the
SP2 update.. you have to wonder what Dell did that a system would require
patching before SP2 could be installed.. I have set up many 'clone' systems
that have had no problems, some on the face of it less specified than your
own.. the difference is that 'clone' systems are universal, and not doctored
to produce a 'corporately' recognisable product..
I would suggest that if you choose to replace your system at any time,
bearing in mind that you have access to OS software that is not OEM, you
purchase a 'clone' system and avoid the big name manufacturers..
-- Mike Hall MVP - Windows Shell/user http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(nojunk)@msn.com> wrote in message news:OcBHXQKGFHA.1044@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > Just to add to Mike Hall's reasoning, when Dell does not support XP on an > older model that means that they did not update the drivers for the > motherboard or onboard peripherals, like the NIC, modem, video, etc. That > means that a clean install of XP may not be a good idea because no XP > drivers are available. It also means that the Win98 drivers may not work > right with XP after an upgrade to XP. What this all means is that your > computer is not certified by Dell as XP compatible. I suggest that you > not try to swim upstream. You might have had a chance with the first > version of XP but probably not with XP as it is today. > > -- > Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] > (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:OGfRFdJGFHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >> The Dell website is not the friendliest I have ever seen.. maybe if I had >> wanted to buy one.. :).. however, what I found out was that Dell offer no >> XP support for your model.. that is not a good thing because some or all >> newer Dells have problems with SP2 for which fixes were made available.. >> >> Second point.. I noticed that the maximum memory slot capability is >> 128mb.. assuming four slots, that amounts to 512mb at best.. while 512mb >> is optimum for an XP system, attempts to multitask to any great degree, >> especially with graphics programs will see the system scrabbling for >> resources a little.. if you only have three slots, your system will >> struggle.. >> >> A 12.5gb HDD five years ago would be akin to inheriting Texas.. that was >> then.. now an XP installation complete with SP2, the pagefile and various >> other updates will swallow up large amounts of disk space.. your 9.5gb >> free space will soon wane.. it is a good idea to have at least 25% free >> space on a drive.. >> >> I would be tempted to do a clean install of XP, dumping Win 98 for good.. >> on a clone system, I would not hesitate, but the Dell problem with SP2 >> might put me off.. you might want to ask Dell about it.. for all I know, >> older systems may not be affected.. >> >> As for arguing with MVPs?.. We are MVPs because we have shown a >> commitment to helping people voluntarily in newsgroups, forums, through >> web pages etc.. it does not guarantee that we are always right, so argue >> away if you so wish.. >> >> If you want to multiboot Win 98 and XP until you decide what best to do, >> go to this site which will tell you all about it.. >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/setup/learnmore/multiboot.mspx >> >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hall >> MVP - Windows Shell/user >> >> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> "David Rocah" <david.rocah@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote in message >> news:G5cSd.7305$x53.2758@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... >>>I don't mean to argue (especially with a MVP :-)), but what's likely to >>>be >>> the problem? The processor is a 500 mhz PIII, and I've added memory to >>> 384 >>> MB. I ran the XP upgrade advisor, and the only hardware that it said >>> might >>> be incompatible is my printer (so I double checked that; there's a >>> Windows >>> XP driver available for that printer on the HP website) and the iVasion >>> PoET >>> adapter (which isn't hardware, but I'm assuming there's similar software >>> built in to XP, or available for XP). If I was going to have to spend a >>> bunch of money on new hardware, or on the software, I agree, it wouldn't >>> make sense to do this. But the XP software will be free because of >>> Microsoft's license with my wife's employer (employees can upgrade their >>> home computers for work use), and I'm planning to use the hardware I've >>> got. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> David >>> >>> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <mike.hall.mail@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>> news:ewhAowxFFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... >>>> David >>>> >>>> The website that you should be browsing is Dell support.. >>>> realistically, >>>> your computer is too old, and will not run XP at all well.. Win 2K is >>>> the >>>> latest OS that Dell considers your computer able to run.. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mike Hall >>>> MVP - Windows Shell/user >>>> >>>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "David Rocah" <david.rocah@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote in message >>>> news:7jWRd.6330$x53.1482@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... >>>> >I want to upgrade a 5yr. old Dell Dimension XPS-T500 machine to XP >>>> >from >>> Win >>>> > 98 SE. In doing some web browsing in preparation, I'm come to worry >>> about >>>> > the pitfalls of the upgrade process. It seems like doing a clean >>> install >>>> > is >>>> > the best way to go. Since I don't have a 2nd computer, I think I'd >>>> > like >>>> > to >>>> > partition my harddrive, and install XP from scratch on the new >>> partition. >>>> > Once its clear it works fine, I'd like to migrate my programs and >>>> > files >>> to >>>> > the new partition, then erase the old one, leaving me with a single >>>> > partion >>>> > on the existing harddrive (because the drive is only about 12.7 GB, >>>> > with >>>> > 9.5 >>>> > GB currently free). My questions are: >>>> > 1. Can I do this? >>>> > 2. Is this the most sensible way to do things? >>>> > 3. If the answer to 1 & 2 is yes, is there a FAQ or website that will >>> give >>>> > me step by step instructions (I can handle the install, but I've >>>> > never >>>> > partitioned a disk before, don't know how to make the new partition >>>> > bootable, don't know how to tell XP to install in the new partition; >>>> > am >>>> > not >>>> > sure that the XP partition will be able to see, read, and transfer >>>> > files >>>> > from the Win 98 SE partition; and am not clear whether I can >>>> > eliminate a >>>> > partition, and the best way to erase the files there once I"m sure >>>> > the >>>> > transition is complete). I'm sure this gets asked a lot. I did a >>> search, >>>> > but didn't find an answer to these questions. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > >>>> > David >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > To reply directly, please remove >>>> > "nospam" from e-mail address >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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