Re: installing xp home over xp pro

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From: mitchell fox (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 07/09/04


Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 15:51:43 -0700

Didn't work
>-----Original Message-----
>Thanks, didn't owr. I just heard cd start to spin, then
>stopped. bios was set to boot from CD. oh, well.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I would give this a try.......run FDISK and choose to
>Delete the partition
>>that is on the drive. Don't create a new partition (the
>drive can be
>>partitioned and formatted via WINXP Setup routine), just
>leave the drive as
>>unallocated space. Now try booting from the XP install
CD
>(I have been
>>assuming that you ensured that the boot device order in
>your computer's BIOS
>>is set to try booting from CD prior to HDD) and see if
>that works.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>--
>>Patti MacLeod
>>Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>"mitchell fox" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>wrote in message
>>news:296ef01c465e4$19507a70$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks. I'll try to keep this brief. I tried a lot of
>>> different things last night that were recommended on
>that
>>> link you gave me, as well as links and pointed to
>(various
>>> win98 boot and set up floppy disks, and none were
>>> successful. it always came to the same thing, which was
>>> the pgm failed to start from the CD (got pointer
errors,
>>> or press any key to start cd, and then it failed to
>start).
>>> I just finished trying the six floppy set up disks
that
>I
>>> downloaded from the Microsoft web site (WINXP-EN_HO). I
>>> ran the prcedure twice, and each time it successfully
>>> processed the six floppies, but when it came time to
>press
>>> enter to aces the CD it either said it couldn't find
the
>>> CD or it just stayed at "press any key to start CD."
>>>
>>> Is there any hope?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >Were you able to access the XP install CD?
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >Patti MacLeod
>>> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>> >"mitchell fox" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> wrote in message
>>> >news:28d6201c4653a$6c669ff0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>>> >> THanks again
>>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >Boot from the WIN98 startup floppy disk and choose
>to
>>> >> start WITH CDROM
>>> >> >SUPPORT. When you get to the A: prompt, put the XP
>>> >> install CD in the CD
>>> >> >drive, wait a few seconds, then switch to the drive
>>> >> letter for the CDROM
>>> >> >drive that is specified in the "Drive 'X':=Drive
>>> MSCD001
>>> >> unit0" line above
>>> >> >the A: prompt (this is assuming that you are
seeing
>the
>>> >> line regarding the
>>> >> >drive letter designated for the CDROM drive, and
>not a
>>> >> message stating that
>>> >> >no drivers were loaded). When you're at the prompt
>for
>>> >> the CDROM drive, key
>>> >> >in:
>>> >> >dir
>>> >> ><ENTER>
>>> >> >Does it display a list of items that are on the CD?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >You invoke WINNT by keying it in at the prompt and
>>> >> hitting ENTER.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >If you have to d/load the file to the drive on your
>>> imac
>>> >> and then copy it to
>>> >> >the floppy disk, that is fine. I was just trying to
>>> save
>>> >> you an extra step
>>> >> >by saying to download it directly to the floppy
>disk.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Regards,
>>> >> >
>>> >> >--
>>> >> >Patti MacLeod
>>> >> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>> >> >
>>> >> >"Mitchell Fox"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> >> wrote in message
>>> >> >news:28a4b01c46510$404c2270$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>>> >> >> Patti:
>>> >> >> Thanks again for your expertise. please forgive
my
>>> >> >> ignorance in askingthe following questions:
>>> >> >> 1. How do I know if there is an i386 folder if I
>>> can't
>>> >> get
>>> >> >> anything to "read" the XP cd? alit does if spin
>for a
>>> >> >> minute and then stops.
>>> >> >> 2.How do I invoke WINNT in the i386 folder? What
>does
>>> >> that
>>> >> >> mean?
>>> >> >> 3. To get the SmartDrive.exe file on the w98
>startup
>>> >> >> floppy, I will have to download it on my imac,
>then
>>> put
>>> >> >> the file on the flopy, since I don't hinnk I
have
>any
>>> >> >> network connectivity on that PC I am trying to
>>> install
>>> >> >> windows XP on.
>>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >If there is an i386 folder on the XP Home OEM
>>> install
>>> >> >> disk, you could run
>>> >> >> >setup by booting from the WIN98 startup floppy
>disk
>>> and
>>> >> >> invoking WINNT in
>>> >> >> >the i386 folder.
>>> >> >> >First, d/load smartdrv.exe from the link that
is
>in
>>> >> Step
>>> >> >> 2a of the "Clean
>>> >> >> >Install Windows XP" instructions. You can
d/load
>the
>>> >> file
>>> >> >> directly to the
>>> >> >> >WIN98 startup floppy disk that you had created.
>Now,
>>> >> boot
>>> >> >> from the WIN98
>>> >> >> >startup floppy disk, choose to start WITH CDROM
>>> >> SUPPORT,
>>> >> >> and take note of
>>> >> >> >the drive letter designation that will be given
>to
>>> your
>>> >> >> CDROM drive (will
>>> >> >> >display a line, just above the A: prompt, which
>says
>>> >> >> something like "Drive
>>> >> >> >X:=Drive MSCD001 unit0", where the X will be
>>> replaced
>>> >> by
>>> >> >> the actual drive
>>> >> >> >letter designation given to the drive). At the
A:
>>> >> prompt,
>>> >> >> key in:
>>> >> >> >smartdrv
>>> >> >> >and hit ENTER
>>> >> >> >Now, key in the drive letter for the CDROM (eg.,
>>> X: )
>>> >> and
>>> >> >> hit ENTER. When at
>>> >> >> >the CDROM drive prompt, key in:
>>> >> >> >cd i386
>>> >> >> >and hit ENTER
>>> >> >> >When at the <CDROM drive letter>\i386 prompt,
key
>>> in:
>>> >> >> >WINNT
>>> >> >> >and hit ENTER
>>> >> >> >Setup should now commence.
>>> >> >> >Let WINXP Setup reformat the drive for either
>FAT32
>>> or
>>> >> >> NTFS.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Regards,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >Patti MacLeod
>>> >> >> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >"Mitchell Fox"
><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> >> >> wrote in message
>>> >> >> >news:291e201c464f3$063d07b0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>> >> >> >> Hello: A brief summary of my xp experience
last
>>> >> night. I
>>> >> >> >> probably did some things wrong, and that's
why
>I
>>> am
>>> >> >> having
>>> >> >> >> problems. I did the following:
>>> >> >> >> 1. Tried to boot from xp home oem instal
disk,
>got
>>> >> error
>>> >> >> >> message "bootcd: can't find NTLDR.
>>> >> >> >> 2. Downloaded w98 boot disk image for flopy,
>>> since i
>>> >> >> >> didn't have one.
>>> >> >> >> 3. using that, did fdisk to delete original
>>> >> partition on
>>> >> >> >> hard disk and created new one. Then did
>>> format: /s to
>>> >> >> >> reformat hard drive.
>>> >> >> >> 4. Tried to boot from xp home cd to install XP
>>> home,
>>> >> and
>>> >> >> >> it wouldn't boot (no error message).
>>> >> >> >> Now all I have on the PC is the W98
Comand.com.
>>> >> >> >> Help.
>>> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >> >You're very welcome :-)
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Regards,
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >> >Patti MacLeod
>>> >> >> >> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >"mitchell fox"
>>> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> >> >> >> wrote in message
>>> >> >> >> >news:2890301c46482$f5ce2370
>$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>> >> >> >> >> Thanks again
>>> >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >> >> >I take it that you have an OEM version of
>XP
>>> >> Home,
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> >> >> this will work fine
>>> >> >> >> >> >for doing a clean install of XP Home. The
>>> >> paragraph
>>> >> >> >> that
>>> >> >> >> >> you're referring to
>>> >> >> >> >> >is stating that the OEM version of XP
Home
>may
>>> >> not
>>> >> >> work
>>> >> >> >> >> for doing a clean
>>> >> >> >> >> >install of XP Pro when using an XP Pro
>Upgrade
>>> >> CD as
>>> >> >> >> >> opposed to the XP Pro
>>> >> >> >> >> >Full install CD.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >Regards,
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >> >> >Patti MacLeod
>>> >> >> >> >> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> ><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>wrote in
>>> >> >> message
>>> >> >> >> >> >news:2939001c46471$8b320650
>>> $a301280a@phx.gbl...
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks again. I read over some of those
>>> >> >> instructions
>>> >> >> >> >> from
>>> >> >> >> >> >> that link ,and they say that an OEM
>version
>>> of
>>> >> XP
>>> >> >> >> Home
>>> >> >> >> >> may
>>> >> >> >> >> >> not work on a clean install("you will
>need
>>> to
>>> >> >> have a
>>> >> >> >> >> >> qualifying Win98/Me/2000 CD to insert
if
>you
>>> >> are
>>> >> >> >> using
>>> >> >> >> >> an
>>> >> >> >> >> >> upgrade version of XP to clean install.
>OEM
>>> >> >> restore
>>> >> >> >> >> disks
>>> >> >> >> >> >> will usually not fulfill the qualifying
>>> >> >> requirement.
>>> >> >> >> If
>>> >> >> >> >> >> the restore disk has a i386 folder, it
>will
>>> >> >> usually
>>> >> >> >> >> work.")
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Is that possible, andif so, what can I
do
>>> other
>>> >> >> than
>>> >> >> >> >> >> purchasing a retail copy?
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >You're welcome.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Since there is only the one partition
on
>>> the
>>> >> hard
>>> >> >> >> >> drive,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> that sure makes
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >things simpler as far as ensuring that
>you
>>> >> delete
>>> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> >> >> correct partition :-)
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Regards,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Patti MacLeod
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >"Mitchell Fox"
>>> >> >> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote in message
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >news:2874a01c46462$1ffd67d0
>>> >> $a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you. i will give htat a try. I
>do
>>> >> know,
>>> >> >> >> >> though,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> that
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> there is only one partition on the
>hard
>>> >> drive.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Hi Mitchell Fox,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >You will have to do a clean install
>of
>>> XP
>>> >> >> Home,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> removing
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the partition that
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >has XP Pro installed and then
>creating a
>>> >> new
>>> >> >> >> >> partition
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> for the XP Home
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >install. Follow the instructions
>here:
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Regards,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Patti MacLeod
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >"Mitchell Fox"
>>> >> >> >> >> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote in message
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >news:316e01c46450$3c850b90
>>> >> $7d02280a@phx.gbl...
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> i need to deinstall xp pro and
>>> install xp
>>> >> >> home
>>> >> >> >> >> >> becasue
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> of
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> a number of applicaition and
device
>>> >> >> problems i
>>> >> >> >> >> have
>>> >> >> >> >> >> had
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> with xp pro. adiitonally, this is
>for
>>> >> home
>>> >> >> use
>>> >> >> >> >> and I
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> don't
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ned xp pro. what is the best way
>to do
>>> >> this?
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >.
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>>
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