Re: Juggling partions?
From: Pegasus \(MVP\) (I.can_at_fly.com)
Date: 04/02/04
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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:41:44 +1000
I agree with the thrust of your lengthy post even though I prefer
to use a boot loader that lets ***me*** determine which partitions
should be hidden and which ones should be visible, rather than
doing it automatically like BootIt (going only by what you wrote).
"Jim" <null@null.com> wrote in message news:qg3bc.4464$zh.3486@fed1read07...
> This is why you use a boot manager like BootIt NG!!! (
> http://www.bootitng.com ) If you had, you'd have NONE of these problems.
> The problem with the MS boot manager is that it can't hide partitions, so
no
> matter what you do, you always see one or the other. Granted, perhaps you
> can install PM (Partition Magic) and manually muck with the partition IDs
> and active indicators every darn time you want to change the bootable OS,
> but my lord, what a hassle. Even then, you *STILL* have to choose which
of
> the two partitions will contain PM! IOW, you've already started a
partition
> dependency, albeit, tied to PM.
>
> Instead, install BootIt NG in a *third* partiton all by its lonesome,
> perhaps at the very end of the HD, only requires about 8MB. Then, you can
> boot your partitions, either one of them right off its direct boot menu,
you
> don't even need to set up individual boot menu items as long as you don't
> want, say, a third shared data partition. You just double-click the
> partition you want booted, and AUTOMATICALLY all others are hidden! You
can
> believe how incredibly simple it all is. In fact, you're making life only
> *more* difficult by mucking w/ PM to do this job. PM is *not* a boot
> manager, not unless you install the Boot Magic boot manager that comes w/
it
> (at least that's way it was packaged way back in version 4.0 when I
> abandoned it for BootIt NG, which made PM obsolete, IMO). Even so, Boot
> Magic is nearly identical to BootIt NG in this regard.
>
> People insist on making this stuff a LOT harder than it need be. As long
as
> you continue to muck w/ the MS boot loader, it will drive you nuts. It's
> major flaw is an inability to hide partitions. Because it can't, you're
> left in this mess of having to hide other partitions so, for example, all
> your OS installations can still boot as C: (i.e., you have no
> inter-partition dependencies). The MS boot loader leaves you with no
choice
> but to build-in drive letter dependencies because it can't hide other
> partitions. Trying to mitigate that w/ manual procedures via PM is
perhaps
> doable, but it's incredibly silly, leave that to a boot manager, like
BootIt
> NG or even Boot Magic. Install BootIt NG, you get 30 days FREE, you don't
> like it, take it out (uninstalls easily, leaves your system EXACTLY as it
> was before installation). Trust me, once you do, and use all its other
> features, like backup imaging, partition management, etc., you'll wonder
why
> you ever bothered w/ PM. At the very least, it will demonstrate how
> *procedurally* you're making a mmountain out of a mole hill.
>
> HTH
>
> Jim
>
>
> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
> news:8C0bc.6972$oR5.3831@pd7tw3no...
> > I wanted to avoid the XP and ME installations having anything to do with
> > each other.
> >
> > I was hoping that by using two primary partitions that they would stay
> > separate, booting to whichever partition was active (the way it SHOULD
> > work), but Microsoft insists on stomping on whatever other OS's are on
the
> > drive.
> >
> > "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
> > news:uL2SShCGEHA.2612@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > To set up a dual boot you install the older OS to the C:
> > > partition, as you did and then while in that partition begin
> > > to install XP. It will detect the existing OS (ME) and ask
> > > where you want to install XP. You select D: and XP will
> > > install on D: but it will install a boot loader on C: that
> > > will be detected when you boot and ask whether you want to
> > > run ME or XP.
> > > See
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q305873
> > >
> > >
> > > "Noozer" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> > > news:gP_ac.6610$Pk3.3699@pd7tw1no...
> > > | I recently installed Windows ME and Windows XP into my
> > > computer.
> > > | Unfortunately Win XP trashed the Win ME installation so
> > > I'm about to repair
> > > | and need some advise...
> > > |
> > > | I created TWO primary partitions on the hard drive. I set
> > > the first
> > > | partition active and installed Window ME onto that
> > > partition. I got it all
> > > | setup and it was working fine.
> > > |
> > > | I then set the second partition as active and installed
> > > Win XP onto that
> > > | partition. It is also configured how I like and works
> > > fine.
> > > |
> > > | Now, I try and set the first partition active and the PC
> > > does not boot. I
> > > | assume that Win XP has stomped on the boot sector of the
> > > hard drive.
> > > |
> > > | I have Partition Magic 8 and am hoping I can do some
> > > partition
> > > | convertion/moving and get the Win ME installation back
> > > without having to
> > > | re-install. If necessary I could get a ghosting program
> > > and dump the
> > > | partition to CD and restore it later, but I'd rather avoid
> > > that if possible.
> > > |
> > > | Is there any way I can repair these installations so both
> > > installs will
> > > | work?
> > > |
> > > | Thanks!
> > > |
> > > |
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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