Re: Juggling partions?
From: Jim (null_at_null.com)
Date: 04/02/04
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Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 17:23:26 -0800
This is why you use a boot manager like BootIt NG!!! (
http://www.bootitng.com ) If you had, you'd have NONE of these problems.
The problem with the MS boot manager is that it can't hide partitions, so no
matter what you do, you always see one or the other. Granted, perhaps you
can install PM (Partition Magic) and manually muck with the partition IDs
and active indicators every darn time you want to change the bootable OS,
but my lord, what a hassle. Even then, you *STILL* have to choose which of
the two partitions will contain PM! IOW, you've already started a partition
dependency, albeit, tied to PM.
Instead, install BootIt NG in a *third* partiton all by its lonesome,
perhaps at the very end of the HD, only requires about 8MB. Then, you can
boot your partitions, either one of them right off its direct boot menu, you
don't even need to set up individual boot menu items as long as you don't
want, say, a third shared data partition. You just double-click the
partition you want booted, and AUTOMATICALLY all others are hidden! You can
believe how incredibly simple it all is. In fact, you're making life only
*more* difficult by mucking w/ PM to do this job. PM is *not* a boot
manager, not unless you install the Boot Magic boot manager that comes w/ it
(at least that's way it was packaged way back in version 4.0 when I
abandoned it for BootIt NG, which made PM obsolete, IMO). Even so, Boot
Magic is nearly identical to BootIt NG in this regard.
People insist on making this stuff a LOT harder than it need be. As long as
you continue to muck w/ the MS boot loader, it will drive you nuts. It's
major flaw is an inability to hide partitions. Because it can't, you're
left in this mess of having to hide other partitions so, for example, all
your OS installations can still boot as C: (i.e., you have no
inter-partition dependencies). The MS boot loader leaves you with no choice
but to build-in drive letter dependencies because it can't hide other
partitions. Trying to mitigate that w/ manual procedures via PM is perhaps
doable, but it's incredibly silly, leave that to a boot manager, like BootIt
NG or even Boot Magic. Install BootIt NG, you get 30 days FREE, you don't
like it, take it out (uninstalls easily, leaves your system EXACTLY as it
was before installation). Trust me, once you do, and use all its other
features, like backup imaging, partition management, etc., you'll wonder why
you ever bothered w/ PM. At the very least, it will demonstrate how
*procedurally* you're making a mmountain out of a mole hill.
HTH
Jim
"Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
news:8C0bc.6972$oR5.3831@pd7tw3no...
> I wanted to avoid the XP and ME installations having anything to do with
> each other.
>
> I was hoping that by using two primary partitions that they would stay
> separate, booting to whichever partition was active (the way it SHOULD
> work), but Microsoft insists on stomping on whatever other OS's are on the
> drive.
>
> "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
> news:uL2SShCGEHA.2612@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > To set up a dual boot you install the older OS to the C:
> > partition, as you did and then while in that partition begin
> > to install XP. It will detect the existing OS (ME) and ask
> > where you want to install XP. You select D: and XP will
> > install on D: but it will install a boot loader on C: that
> > will be detected when you boot and ask whether you want to
> > run ME or XP.
> > See
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q305873
> >
> >
> > "Noozer" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> > news:gP_ac.6610$Pk3.3699@pd7tw1no...
> > | I recently installed Windows ME and Windows XP into my
> > computer.
> > | Unfortunately Win XP trashed the Win ME installation so
> > I'm about to repair
> > | and need some advise...
> > |
> > | I created TWO primary partitions on the hard drive. I set
> > the first
> > | partition active and installed Window ME onto that
> > partition. I got it all
> > | setup and it was working fine.
> > |
> > | I then set the second partition as active and installed
> > Win XP onto that
> > | partition. It is also configured how I like and works
> > fine.
> > |
> > | Now, I try and set the first partition active and the PC
> > does not boot. I
> > | assume that Win XP has stomped on the boot sector of the
> > hard drive.
> > |
> > | I have Partition Magic 8 and am hoping I can do some
> > partition
> > | convertion/moving and get the Win ME installation back
> > without having to
> > | re-install. If necessary I could get a ghosting program
> > and dump the
> > | partition to CD and restore it later, but I'd rather avoid
> > that if possible.
> > |
> > | Is there any way I can repair these installations so both
> > installs will
> > | work?
> > |
> > | Thanks!
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
>
>
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