Re: Cannot Correctly Preview Fax in Fax Console

Acrobat _Reader's_ rendering capabilities have varied with each version and have not always been robust enough to permit printing to the fax printer unless a separate printto verb is defined. Word's rendering capabilities have always been sufficient and still are.
It's been rather hard to wade through your post, but as I understand it your problem is not with rendering or sending the fax, right? Your only problem is in previewing the fax, right? Most of the time that is a problem with end user error, i.e., not using the correct arrows in Picture viewer to advance to the next page correctly. I'm not sure I'm seeing anything here that isn't expected behavior.
No version of Outlook has fax capability, and that hasn't changed in Outlook 2007.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"BoulderMan" <BoulderMan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:95304357-94C2-421C-AC3F-927ACF123B59@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I don't know how you can say that since I've routinely faxed from Acrobat
Reader as I recall, although I did update it within the last year. Also you
can see Reader generating 3 pages before calling up the fax console.

As I stated I also could not print to the fax from Word 2007 which I would
assume should work since I routinely used Word 97 for faxing using the fax
accessory.

One reason I am suspicious of the Office 2007 installation is that I've
found Office to change file associations and default system settings without
warning - for example Office 2007 installation prevented me from using Access
97 that was installed in another directory (Office 97), although my Word 97
and Excel 97 were still available. (Access seemed to be removed, not merely
no longer linked to the shortcut). Office 2007 also changed my default email
program without asking. Finally, even the Student Teacher trial edition of
Office 2003 on my machine when I bought it would often override the file
associations of my Office 97 Professional Word and Excel without asking when
Word 2003 would open .doc even though Word 97 was set as the associated app.

Are you going to maintain that Word 2007 also doesn't have rendering
abilities?

Does Outlook 2007 (which I've never used but which became the default email
client) have faxing abilities? If so maybe it could be used as a work around.

"Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:

I knew there was more to this story. Printing to the fax printer requires
that the originating application have the necessary rendering capabilities.
Adobe Reader does not.
If you now send a fax using a supported method, what is your problem?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"BoulderMan" <BoulderMan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:2BE66277-6757-474E-A07A-678AA2BFBFFD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>I have used the fax printer Windows accessory many times. In this
>instance,
> I first tried printing from Adobe Reader while viewing a 3-page .pdf > file.
> I
> go to print and select fax as the printer. The Fax console comes up. > I
> selected an addressee from the address book, I then selected a cover > page
> and
> filled it in. I choose to send the fax now, normal delivery. On the > page
> where I can actually send the fax, I chose the "Preview Fax" button to
> look
> at the fax before sending.
>
> To my surprise, a message popped up saying cannot view the fax. This
> never
> happened before, over the many years I've used the fax printer.
>
> I chose to send the fax anyway since I figured it was ok. It seemed to > be
> sent fine - 4 pages were sent which would be correct: a cover *** and > 3
> document pages. I then tried to view the fax in the sent folder and > got
> the
> message indicating no application for opening .tif files. At this > point I
> went into Windows Explorer, set up the association of .tif files with
> Windows
> Picture and Fax viewer. I then was able to view the fax. The first > page
> was
> just fine, i don't recall if the second was fine or not, but the > remaining
> pages came up as bit map files unassociated with the document. I then
> located those bit maps in the same TEMP directory I mentioned earlier.
> That
> temp directory also included the correct first page of the fax as a tif
> file.
> The other sent files were .bmp files.
>
> Deleting the displayed .bmp files only resulted in other .bmp files > from
> that same directory being displayed. It is as if the fax console > preview
> is
> generating only one (or two) .tif file page(s) and then using other > files.
>
> To try to fix the problem, I contacted HP support. And tried several
> things -
> 1. Removing the fax accessory using Windows Add/Remove components and > then
> adding it back in.
> 2. Running System File Checker(SFC) utility to verify and correct
> defective
> protected system files.
> 3. Running msconfig to configure the system to not run any startup
> programs
> and to only run those services that are from Microsoft. This
> configuration
> allowed the fax printer to be accessed without using non-Microsoft
> services
> or any startup apps. (I did not try to get a minimal set of Microsoft
> services however.)
>
> When none of this things seemed to significantly affect the problem, I > ran
> chkdsk which did seem to find and remove some minor index issues - I > think
> one or a few files. This did not affect the problem.
>
> I confirmed this same problem using Word 2007 trying to print a > multipage
> document to the fax.
>
> I have not tried to print from any other apps other than Acrobat Reader
> and
> Word 2007.
>
> Other than this fax printer problem, the system seems stable. I've had > it
> several years and have run antivirus and antispy programs. Only the
> anti-virus program is resident but I disabled it during some of these
> checks.
>
> The first indication that something was different was when I could not
> Preview the fax before sending it.
>
> The reason I am somewhat suspicious about updates is that a year or so
> ago,
> a Microsoft patch conflicted with an HP program on my HP machine and
> caused
> Windows Explorer to not work properly at all. A subsequent patch from
> Microsoft corrected the problem, likely because it affected so many > users.
> Since the fax printer is probably less frequently used, it might not > show
> up
> as a major problem. I only use it occasionally but never had a problem
> before.
>
> I am an EE and I've done years of software, firmware and some hardware
> development. So I don't think this is user error. I do not however > claim
> to
> be an expert on Windows XP internals but I consider myself a competent
> user.
>
> I do not know how the fax accessory files are generated. It looks like
> there are about a dozen fx*.dll files that I suspect comprise the fax
> accessory. I do not know if they are rebuilt when the fax accessory is
> removed and added. And I don't know exactly how the SFC utility works. > I
> would hope it would check all the current windows files against the
> installation files. But perhaps it only checks protected or hidden > files
> and
> not the viewable files. And so the fx*.dll might have some corruption.
> Note
> however, that nothing locks up or otherwise acts suspiciously.
>
> "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
>
>> This sounds more like end user error. Your suspicions have not been
>> confirmed by the rest of us. Provide more information, including your
>> file
>> association for TIF and the steps to repro your problem.
>> -- >> Russ Valentine
>> [MVP-Outlook]
>> "BoulderMan" <BoulderMan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:3875583D-3634-4DB3-8A10-E16B5AC860D0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > The Fax Console appears to work fine and comes up when I print to >> > the
>> > Fax
>> > Printer from an application such as Adobe Reader or Word 2007. >> > However
>> > when
>> > I go to preview the fax in the Fax Console, only the cover page, the
>> > first
>> > document page or cover page and first document page are correct. >> > The
>> > remaining pages are bitmap images from the hidden directory
>> > C:\Documents
>> > and
>> > Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp. Somehow, the fax console is >> > only
>> > converting one document page and then mistakenly somehow selecting
>> > bitmap
>> > images from that directory.C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local
>> > Settings\Temp as other document pages.
>> >
>> > The fax printer used to work fine. I suspect some Microsoft or >> > other
>> > updates or installation of Office 2007 might be related to this
>> > problem.
>> > Disabling non-Microsoft services and all startup programs using
>> > msconfig
>> > did
>> > not affect the problem. Running SFC did not help.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions?
>> >
>>


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