Re: Manual send with XP Fax?


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MikefromUK


"Hal Hostetler [MVP S/U]" wrote:

> You can do a manual send by connecting a phone to the "Phone" jack on the
> modem (so you have manual voice access to the telephone line) and setting
> your modem to NOT wait for a dial tone (on Windows XP, 'Control Panel|Phone
> and Modem Options|Modems|Properties|Modem' uncheck the "Wait for dial tone
> before dialing" checkbox). You call the manual, operator controlled fax
> machine number with the telephone. You have your fax ready to send with a 1
> or 2 digit FALSE phone number. You then tell the Fax Machine operator to
> press his "Start" button as soon as he hears your short, false phone number
> finish dialing. Your modem should "blind dial" the false number, the two
> modems should begin their negotiation sequence, and finish the transmission.
>
> This method is very similar to what you'd do with two dedicated Fax
> Machines.
>
> Hal
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> "MikeFromUK" <MikeFromUK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > "Earl F. Parrish" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "MikeUK" <MikeUK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:68D12F91-8BC8-40E7-891C-D51B1743499B@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I was trying various Fax programs for use with my small business.
> > > > While I
> > > > was trying WinFaxPro a customer asked me to fax him. The
> > > > customer's fax
> > > > number is shared with his telephone. Attempting to send the Fax
> > > > caused the
> > > > telephone to be answered, from which point the customer expected
> > > > me to press
> > > > a button or take a similar action to cause the fax to be sent. I
> > > > couldn't
> > > > find a way to do this, so the Fax failed to be transmitted. Was
> > > > this manual
> > > > send method a reasonable expectation on the part of the customer?
> > > > If so, Is
> > > > it possible to manually send in this way with XP Fax?
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Mike
> > >
> > > The person receiving the fax has to initiate action to change a
> > > voice call to a fax call. Your fax modem sends the CNG tone
> > > expecting an answer tone. After forty-five seconds, the sending
> > > machine stops transmitting the CNG tones. There has to be about a
> > > five to fifteen second overlap of the CNG and the answer tone for
> > > the handshake to occur.
> > >
> > > If you were using the handset of an actual fax machine, each of you
> > > would have to take action to make the fax transmission work if you
> > > talked first. Many fax machines can listen in on incoming calls to
> > > see whether the CNG tones are being sent if a call is answered by a
> > > phone connected to the phone port of a fax machine when the machine
> > > is properly configured. This usually is the Telephone Answering
> > > Device setting. Others allow you to send a touchtone code if you
> > > pick up an extension when there is an incoming fax call.
> > >
> > > In other words, if the sending fax machine or fax modem sends the
> > > CNG tones, it has done all it can do to make the transmission
> > > complete.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Earl F. Parrish
> >
> >
> > Thanks very much for that, it was very helpful. What I need to do then is
> > ensure that my XP Fax setup is transmitting CNG tones. So, if I can send a
> > Fax to any type of Fax machine successfully, then this will verify that
> CNG
> > tones are being sent as far as I understand it.
> > Regards,
> > Mike

That's great! Seems like this method will do the trick when the standard
method fails. I don't know how significant it is but here in the UK we're not
allowed to use a phone jacked into the modem. This being the rule, there are
no phone sockets on UK modems. I do have a phone connected to the same line
as the modem though. They converge at a "doubler" plugged into the telephone
line wall socket. I think there's every chance that this combination will
serve the required purpose, so I'll try it. Thanks a lot.

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