Re: Send faliures since installing XP Pro

From: Hal Hostetler [MVP-S/U] (hhh_at_kvoa.com)
Date: 01/15/05

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    There's really nothing I can do to help with WinFax. I don't have it,
    don't use it, and Symantec's support for it is all but nonexistent. The
    only help I can offer is the instructions for enabling both PSS and debug
    logging of fax transmissions in the registry. I can pass the logs created
    on to folks who might be able to figure out what's happening.

     Hal

    -- 
    Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com
    Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-S/U  -- WA7BGX
    http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
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    "Kathy in Great Northwest" <KAthy GNW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in 
    message news:09CF7A32-2F0E-49FE-B853-03306ABE0C3A@microsoft.com...
    > Hal, Thanks for your response. I was able to follow all of these 
    > instructions
    > but it has not changed the situation. FYI I have SP2 since it was part of 
    > the
    > XP Pro I purchased. I have now completely removed the XP fax, reinstalled 
    > Win
    > Fax and still have same problem. This leads me to believe that it is an XP
    > related problem and even with SP2 there is still a bug. Is ther another 
    > way
    > to reset the USR modem? Still need to send faxes!
    >
    >
    > "Hal Hostetler [MVP S/U]" wrote:
    >
    >> There was a problem with the in-box driver for certain USR modems in the
    >> initial release of Windows XP that you might be seeing:
    >> -------------------------------------
    >> We have a confirmed bug in the in-box driver of certain USR modems. Any 
    >> fax
    >> program that relies on the Fax section in this modem's .inf file will 
    >> cause
    >> the modem to transmit in 2400 bps. XP Fax relies on this entry. The 2400 
    >> bps
    >> issue can be seen in the log. Future releases (XP SP1, .Net Server) will
    >> include a fix.
    >>
    >> Details:
    >>
    >> 1. Cause: A problem in the modem's in-box driver (= .inf file). A modem's
    >> inf can have an entry specifying a custom "ResetCommand" - a string that
    >> would bring the modem to a known state. According to the DDK, in this 
    >> state
    >> echo must be off. With this particular modem (and several other USR 
    >> models),
    >> the string doesn't bring it to echo-off state. Therefore, fax's
    >> identification sequence gets confused by the echoed commands, can't 
    >> figure
    >> out send/receive capabilities, and falls back to 2400.
    >>
    >> 2. Workaround:
    >>
    >> In the Registry open:
    >>
    >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E96D-E325-11C
    >> E-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0000\Fax and delete ResetCommand key.
    >>
    >> Then delete HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Fax\TAPIDevices and use
    >> the device again.
    >>
    >> The workaround deletes the custom ResetCommand entry from unimodem's
    >> registry. It then deletes Microsoft Fax FSP's cache, forcing it to 
    >> redetect
    >> the modem using a default ResetCommand (that works).
    >>
    >> A .reg file can't be full-proof, because it will fail in case of multiple
    >> modems or modem drivers. In this case, user must change the "0000" to the
    >> number corresponding to the modem driver in question.
    >> -------------------------------------
    >>
    >> Unfortunately, Windows XP Fax often has difficulty in the most pristine
    >> settings. Once you've  installed other fax software (even if you've 
    >> removed
    >> it) it's usually toast.  These errors have been nearly impossible to 
    >> track
    >> down. To do so  requires enabling both PSS and debug logging of fax
    >> transmissions, both of which require fairly extensive registry changes.
    >>
    >> Hal
    >> -- 
    >> Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com
    >> Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-S/U -- WA7BGX
    >> http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
    >> KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ.   NBC   Channel 4
    >> Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
    >>
    >> "Kathy in Great Northwest" <KAthy GNW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
    >> message news:E2BF8630-9C84-4DB6-8B2C-3466A3F7B154@microsoft.com...
    >> > All of my faxes sent just fine on WIN98, but since XP Pro upgrade 
    >> > several
    >> > clients fax machines will no longer "receive" transmissions. the 
    >> > message
    >> says
    >> > "failed to train" in some cases I have watched the modem send gear down
    >> from
    >> > 14400 to 9600 to 2400 and it still fails. I am still using the same fax
    >> > program, Win Fax Pro 10.0, same internal modem US Robotics 56K Fax Win. 
    >> > I
    >> > have tried using  XP Fax and some clients who could recieve using Win 
    >> > Fax
    >> > Pro, now cannot.  When I switch back to Win Fax, then some that could
    >> receive
    >> > using XP FAx now cannot get transmission to train. It's random, some 
    >> > are
    >> > local calls, some are long distance, I can't find a common denominator. 
    >> > I
    >> > have even installed HP fax features that are part of my printer, but 
    >> > even
    >> > that seems to get corrupted. Send logs won't open, etc. Life was simple
    >> > before upgrade, I used one progrram WinFaxPro to send and receive to 
    >> > desk
    >> > top, now it is way too complicated. Is there some setting for modem in 
    >> > XP
    >> > that need an adjustment so "send" will work for all types of 
    >> > reciepients?
    >> > This is crippling my office work since I send out all orders via fax to 
    >> > my
    >> > vendors. Please help!
    >> > -- 
    >> > Kathy in Great Northwest
    >>
    >>
    >> 
    

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