Re: network printing problem

From: Bruce Sanderson (bsanders_at_junk.junk)
Date: 05/20/04 

Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 23:12:49 -0700

Is this a LaserJet 1200 or a DeskJet (multifunction) 1200?

Did the port name have something like DOT4 in it? 

-- 
Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
"Bill H." <wh@photosourcefolio.com> wrote in message 
news:OO3RaibPEHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Thanks.
>
> The printer is an HP1200 connected to LPT1 on WinXP home, and trying to
> print from the win98se computer.  Drivers were installed from downloaded
> files from hp.com
>
> I did set up user accounts on the winxp, but sounds like I didn't need to 
> do
> that.  I think the problem is fixed, though I'll know in a few days.
>
> I found that the shared printer icon was set to use some wierd port on the
> winxp computer.  I can't remember what it was, and most print jobs send 
> from
> the win98 computer would just stall with "error--printing" but a test page
> from the printer icon on win98 worked.
>
> So, I changed the port to LPT1, and so far, so good.  Very strange.
>
> To help, I set up two printers for the HP1200 on winxp each using the same
> LPT1 port.  One printer for local winxp printing, and the other for 
> printing
> from win98.  That way, I figure, if a print job gets stuck in the win98
> queue, the local winxp printer can still function.
>
> However, I am stuck with a printer in printer control panel on winxp that 
> I
> cannot delete, keeps saying something about the printer name being wrong 
> or
> can't connect to the print server.  I've always been able to delete 
> printers
> before, so this is new to me (it's not the default printer, either).
>
>
> "Bruce Sanderson" <bsanders@junk.junk> wrote in message
> news:%236OdBj9OEHA.808@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Perhaps some clarification is in order.
>>
>> "Target" depends on the context, but generally refers to the other
> computer
>> that you want to take some action on remotely; that is, if you want to do
>> something to computer #2 from computer #1, then computer #2 is the target
>> computer.
>>
>> The instructions on the page at
>> http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/NetPrinterAllUsers.htm are about adding a
>> "Network Printer" to "target" computers (e.g. computer #2) without
> actually
>> using the keyboard, mouse and display of those computers, but rather by
>> sending commands from one computer (e.g. computer #1) to all the others
> (the
>> target computers - computer #2 etc.).
>>
>> Those commands will not work when sent to a computer running Windows 98,
> so
>> they aren't really of much use to you, since your other computer
>> (potentially a target) is running Windows 98 and anyway, looks like 
>> you've
>> already got the "Network Printer" added to your Windows 98 computers.
>>
>> "Local" and "Network" printers are explained in the definition of
> "Printer"
>> at http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/Glossary.htm which may be useful
>> background information.
>>
>> What make and model are the printers?  Many things to do with printers 
>> are
>> very model specific, so this is vital information if you need assistance
>> with printers.
>>
>> 1. From your description of the problem, the two printers are Local
> Printers
>> on the Windows XP Home computer.  You want to be able to print on those
>> printers from a Windows 98 computer over the network.  Is this correct?
>>
>> 2.  With XP Home, all networking (e.g. accessing file or folder shares
> from
>> another computer, printing from another computer on a printer shared from
>> the XP Home computer) is done using the user account called "Guest".  So,
>> no, you don't need to add other user accounts for users of your Windows 
>> 98
>> computer to use the printers.
>>
>> 3.  If you can print Test Pages from the Windows 98 computer to the
> printers
>> that are on the XP computer, then at least you have network connectivity,
>> the printers are shared correctly and there are no permission (security)
>> issues.
>>
>> 4.  Now, the next thing is about Printer Drivers.  When you added the
>> Network Printers on the Windows 98 computer, were you prompted to install
> a
>> driver or did you have the driver already installed?
>>
>> 5. The driver that was installed on the Windows XP computer can not be
> used
>> on the Windows 98 computer.  You need to have a "compatible" pair of
> drivers
>> on the two computers.  What constitutes "compatible" depends entirely on
> the
>> make and model of the printers.  If the drivers are not "compatible", 
>> some
>> things may print correctly, some may print incorrectly and some may not
>> print at all.  You might want to see if there are newer drivers available
>> for each of Windows XP and Windows 98 on the printer manufacturer's web
>> site.  See http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/possiblyusefullinks.htm for
> links
>> to the driver download place for some printer manufacturers.
>>
>> 6.  The information and instructions at
>> http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/NetPrinterNoPP.htm might be useful.
>>
>> 7.   It might be possible to add the Windows 98 driver as an "Additonal
>> Driver" on the Windows XP computer, but with only two computers, it may
> not
>> be worth the effort.  Not all drivers can be added this way, but when it
>> works, the "Additional Driver" will be sent automatically to the client
>> computer (the Windows 98 computer in your case) when the printer is added
> to
>> the client computer.  Additional Drivers are added on the printer's
>> Properties, Sharing page.  Here's how:
>>
>> a. on the Windows XP computer, right click on the printer in Printers and
>> Faxes and select Properties
>> b. select the Sharing tab
>> c. click Additonal Drivers
>> d. click the check box beside Windows 95, 98 and ME to add a check mark
>> e. click OK
>> f. click the Browse button and navigate to where the Windows 98 driver 
>> is.
>> This could be a floppy disk or CD that came with the printer, or the
> folder
>> where you downloaded a Windows 98 driver from the manufacturer's web 
>> site.
>> There should be a file with a .inf extension at that place.  Select the
> .inf
>> file and click Open.
>> Follow through the prompts - these may vary depending on the actual
> driver.
>>
>> If you get an error message, quite likely the driver has not been 
>> packaged
>> correctly to be used as an Additional Driver - unfortunately, this is all
>> too common, particularly for older printers and many of the (cheaper) ink
>> jet printers.
>>
>> 8. I take your point about the first paragraph at
>> http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/NetPrinterAllUsers.htm being confusing. 
>> I
>> will work at making it less confusing, although this page is not relevant
> in
>> your situation - it does not apply to Windows 98 at all.  With Windows
> 2000
>> and Windows XP, when a user uses the Add Printer wizard to add a Network
>> printer, nowhere in the Add Printer wizard's dialogs is there an option 
>> to
>> add the printer for all users that logon to that computer; the wizard 
>> only
>> adds the printer for the currently logged on user.  However, by using the
>> commands described on that page, it is possible to add a Network Printer
> so
>> that all users that logon do get to use the Network Printer without 
>> adding
>> it using the Add Printer wizard.  When the computer to which the Network
>> Printer is to be added is running Windows 98, this is completely
> irrelevant
>> as Windows 98 does not have these concepts.
>>
>> If you still need help, please post again, but make sure you tell us what
>> make and model your printers are!
>>
>> -- 
>> Bruce Sanderson MVP Printing
>>
>> It is perfectly useless to know the right answer to the wrong question.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Bill H." <wh@photosourcefolio.com> wrote in message
>> news:ueHv8h6OEHA.3748@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >I don't understand it.
>> >
>> > It says " There is NO option in the Add Printer wizard to add a network
>> > printer for all users of a computer, but the capability to do so does
>> > exists
>> > in Windows 2000 and XP.  "
>> >
>> > then does not say HOW to add printer for all users on a winxp computer.
>> >
>> > So I'm I supposed to, then, use this program on the win98 computer to
> gain
>> > access to a network printer on the winxp machine?
>> >
>> > and by the way, the "target" word is NOT in their glossary, so I'm not
>> > sure
>> > if the target computer is the win98 or the winxp.
>> >
>> > "Cari (MS-MVP)" <Newsgroups1@coribright.com> wrote in message
>> > news:%23j3thm2OEHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> >> Take a look at Bruce Sanderson's article at
>> >> http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/NetPrinterAllUsers.htm
>> >> -- 
>> >> Cari
>> >> MS-MVP Windows Technologies - Printing/Imaging/Hardware
>> >> www.coribright.com
>> >>
>> >> "Bill H." <wh@photosourcefolio.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:eavVLd2OEHA.3312@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Have new winxp home (replacing an old win98) and trying to share the
>> >> > two
>> >> > attached printers with a win98 computer.  All seems OK (printers
> appear
>> >> > shared, and I can set them up on the win98 computer and a test page
>> > prints
>> >> > OK), but sometimes print jobs from the win98 don't print on the 
>> >> > winxp
>> >> > (laser) printer.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have only one account (the main account, admin group) on the win 
>> >> > xp
>> >> > computer.  For printing, do I have to set up a user account for all
> the
>> >> > other users/computers that want to share the winxp attached 
>> >> > printers,
>> >> > or
>> >> > does printer sharing (once set up) work regarless of who is logged
> into
>> >> > the
>> >> > win98 computer and whether or not they have a corresponding account
> on
>> > the
>> >> > winxp computer?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> > -- 
>> >> > Bill
>> >> >
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