Re: Sequencing of photo files burned to a CD
- From: "Jim" <j.n@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 01:45:15 GMT
"RobinW" <RobinW@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> This is all good info, but, why will the photos not download from the
> digital
> card in the order taken? This is quite frustrating for them to be out of
> order.
>
> Thanks,
> RobinW
Doesn't it copy the files by filename in lexical order? That is the way
burning to a CD or DVD has always proceeded on my system.
It would help understanding your problem if you gave a short sample of file
names.
Jim
>
> "Yves Alarie" wrote:
>
>> When you place thumbnails in order, this is fine if you click on View
>> Slide
>> Show. However, if you close and open the folder, or you copy to a CD, the
>> original listing by numerical/alphabetical order with return. To keep
>> your
>> thumbnails in place, just rename using XP. To rename 400 photos will take
>> just a minute of your time, as described below. Very easy to do and then
>> you
>> can do a lot more if you just learn a few rules.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Using XP to organize your folders and your photos within folders
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. How to organize your photo folders so you can find them. (03-27-05)
>>
>> 2. How to make a collection of photos from different folders (or just
>> within
>> a folder) so you can place the photos in the order you want and they will
>> stay in this order when you open the folder again for a slide show or
>> copy
>> to a CD.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. How to organize your photo folders.
>>
>> You should make new folders on your drive for each group of pictures, or
>> make new folders under My Pictures folder, one folder for each group of
>> pictures. Either way will work. Now, how do you name the folders?
>>
>> Remember that XP will list (or sort) folder names by
>> numerical/alphabetical
>> order.
>>
>> So the folder 2004_Vacation will be listed before the folder Vacation.
>> You
>> can take advantage of this. What do you remember about a photo folder
>> when
>> you search for it? A name or a date? It is a lot easier to find photo
>> folders when they have both a date and a name, but easier when the
>> folders
>> are listed chronologically by date first instead of by name of event. So,
>> the listing of your folders should be: year, month (and day if you wish,
>> but
>> be consistent, if you want the day enter the day for all folders)
>> followed
>> by the event name. These should be separated by underline so it is easy
>> to
>> read on your screen. So you should name folders something like this:
>>
>> 2003_12_25_Christmas
>>
>> 2004_12_25_Christmas
>>
>> 2003_04_07_Easter
>>
>> 2004_04_17_Easter
>>
>> XP will list the folders in this order:
>>
>> 2003_04_07_Easter
>>
>> 2003_12_25_Christmas
>>
>> 2004_04_17_Easter
>>
>> 2004_12_25_Christmas
>>
>>
>>
>> You can see what is happening. Your folders will be listed by year, month
>> and day and then the event name. This makes it easy to find them. You can
>> use some other system, but use one to list with a particular order other
>> than name of event alone. Otherwise you will have a messy listing of
>> folder
>> names. If your folders are not properly organized, right click on a
>> folder
>> name and click on rename on the opening menu. Then change the name using
>> the
>> above system or a system you want.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. How to organize a collection of photos in a folder, in the order you
>> want
>> the photos to be displayed for a slide show. This will include renaming
>> the
>> photos from the original name assigned by your camera.
>>
>>
>>
>> Make a new folder on your hard drive. You can also make a new folder
>> under
>> "My Pictures" if you prefer. Both will work.
>>
>> Name the new folder something easy to remember and search for: year,
>> month,
>> day, event, separated by underline. For example:
>>
>> 2004_09_16_Summer Vacations
>>
>>
>>
>> Copy the photos you want to place in a particular order into this new
>> folder. You can copy photos to this new folder from a single folder
>> (first
>> and simplest thing to do) or from any photo folder you have to make a new
>> collection. If you are making a collection, use a collection name, and
>> the
>> date you are making it, something like:
>>
>> 2004_11_19_My Collection of Summer Photos
>>
>> (this is a little more complicated but will also be explained below).
>>
>>
>>
>> Once the photos are copied in this new folder, open the new folder. Hold
>> the
>> Ctrl key down and press the letter A. This will select (highlight in
>> blue)
>> all the files in the folder.
>>
>> Right click on the first file (important to right click on the first file
>> because renaming will start from there).
>>
>> Click on Rename on the opening menu.
>>
>> Type in the name you want, to replace the current name of the first file.
>> Any system will work, such as year, month, day, event. For example type
>> in:
>>
>> 2003_09_16 Virginia Beach Vacation (101).jpg
>>
>> and press Enter.
>>
>> XP will automatically rename all the files in this folder: 2003_09_16
>> Virginia Beach (101), (102), (103), etc. and they will open (sorted or
>> listed) in the order (101), (102), (103), etc. If you copy them to a CD,
>> this order will be maintained.
>>
>>
>>
>> Two important things when renaming using the above method.
>>
>> 1. Look at the name of the above file, you must include a space between
>> the
>> last character of the file name and (101)
>>
>> 2. When you rename, don't forget to add .jpg after (101). If you forget,
>> XP
>> will warn you (window will open telling you the file type is being
>> changed,
>> answer NO) and enter .jpg after this warning. If you don't, you will not
>> be
>> able to open the file. If you still do not enter .jpg after the warning,
>> don
>> 't worry. Rename again and enter .jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> You can rename any time and as many times as you want. You are not
>> dependent
>> on the camera wizard to rename.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can rename groups of files in a folder (in the example above, the
>> date
>> can be 16, 17, 18, etc for each day of your vacation) just select the
>> group
>> of files you want and right click on the first one in the group and
>> rename
>> from there. For each group you select, just add (101) after the name you
>> want for the first file in the each group. So, you can rename as you
>> want:
>>
>> 2003_09_16 Virginia Beach Vacation (101).jpg for all photos taken on
>> the 16
>>
>> 2003_09_17 Virginia Beach Vacation (101).jpg for all photos taken on
>> the 17
>>
>> etc,
>>
>> You simply select all the photos taken on the 16th and rename, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can do even better than this. Suppose you want a slide show and you
>> want
>> the last three pictures taken on your vacation to be the first three or
>> in
>> between some other photos, or re-order the photos in a folder in any way.
>> Easy to do. Open the folder in thumbnail view, use your mouse to place
>> the
>> thumbnails in the order you want. Select all the photos and rename
>> starting
>> from the first picture adding (101) to the name you want for the first
>> picture. The (101), (102), (103), etc will be added automatically in the
>> order you placed the thumbnails. They will stay in this order in your
>> folder
>> and if you copy to a CD because XP lists (or sorts) by file name only on
>> a
>> CD.
>>
>> In this case, you can omit the day and the first file would be:
>>
>> 2003_09_Virginia Beach Vacation (101).jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> If you copied many pictures from different folders in this new folder and
>> all you want is to order them in chronological order, moving thumbnails
>> in
>> the correct order is tedious. Let XP do this for you. Change the View
>> from
>> Thumbnails to Details. In the Details view, right click on the column
>> header
>> "Name". This will open a list. Click on More at the bottom of the list. A
>> list will open, check the box "Date Picture Taken". This will add the
>> column Date Picture Taken in the Details view. Then you click on the
>> column
>> header "Date Picture taken" and XP will now change the list of files (the
>> order of the listed files) from the name of the files (the default) to
>> listing files in chronological order. Now, change the View to Thumbnails
>> and
>> they are in chronological order. Select them, rename them using the above
>> procedure and you are in business. There is also another way to do this.
>> When in Thumbnails view, click on View on the top bar, then Arrange Icons
>> by
>> on the drop menu and then select Picture Taken On. The thumbnails are now
>> in
>> chronological order. This is fine if all the photos are of the same year
>> since XP list the order by MM/DD/YYYY as the default. If you have
>> multiple
>> years, change the default to YYYY/MM/DD using Control Panel, Date,Time
>> options.
>>
>>
>>
>> Convenient if you want to make a slide show of pictures from different
>> folders. Just make a new folder, copy the photos you want in the new
>> folder,
>> place the thumbnails in the order you want and rename.
>>
>> You are not restricted to only one name (you use one name for one group
>> of
>> picture, another for the next group, etc. and this also avoid making
>> subfolders to separate pictures from the same event) and you can control
>> the
>> order in which each group will open, by placing a number up front of the
>> file name for each group. You may have photos of Christmas, Easter, New
>> Year
>> etc. and of different years and you want them all together in the same
>> folder for a big slide show or save them on a CD to send to friends. Make
>> a
>> new folder, copy them to the new folder. Then, place the thumbnails in
>> the
>> order you want, select the first group, right click on the first
>> thumbnail
>> in the group and rename:
>>
>> 1_2002 Easter (101).jpg
>>
>> Then select the second group and rename
>>
>> 2_2002 Christmas (101).jpg
>>
>> Placing 1_, 2_, etc in front will control the order of each group and
>> (101)
>> controls the order within each group.
>>
>> If you want to add another group later and you want the photos of this
>> group
>> to be, say between 1_ and 2_, use 1a_ in front of the file name.
>>
>> In the above example, after you make the new folder for your collection,
>> copy your Easter photos in it and rename them. Then copy your Christmas
>> photos in it and rename them. Then copy the next group in it and rename
>> them. Easier to do it this way than copying all of them and then
>> renaming.
>> Also, after you copy a group, you can move the thumbnails to change the
>> order before renaming.
>>
>>
>>
>> You may also want to add some more photos in a particular group at a
>> later
>> time, say your Christmas group. No problem. Copy the files you want to
>> add
>> in the folder, move the thumbnails in the group you want to add them to,
>> where you want them. Select all the thumbnails in the group, right click
>> on
>> the first one and rename. When you rename, you must change the name in
>> order
>> for rename to take place. Add something like XYZ after Christmas. Once
>> renaming is done, select the same files again and rename again. Remove
>> the
>> XYZ and you will be back to the original name.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note: There is a disadvantage to changing the original name of files.
>> This
>> is why I recommend at the start to make a new folder and copy your
>> original
>> files in the new folder before renaming. The disadvantage is this. Many
>> have
>> the option of video out from the camera to display the pictures from the
>> memory card in your camera to a TV for a slide show. If you change the
>> file
>> names and copy the files back to your memory card to display on your TV
>> (or
>> even to just look at them on the LCD of the camera) your camera may not
>> be
>> able to read the files. You can always rename, using the same format (8
>> characters) that your camera uses, but now you will have to rename each
>> file
>> and this is tedious. So, be careful what you do with your original files.
>>
>> There is a second disadvantage. The above naming system in an XP system.
>> As
>> long as you are on XP everything will be displayed properly with this
>> naming
>> system. However, if you go out of XP, the display order is unlikely to be
>> the same. Particularly true if you want to play a CD on your DVD player.
>> Your DVD player will read files on your CD differently and will want them
>> in
>> the order 001,002,003, etc. rather than with the above system. It wants
>> files listed like:
>>
>> Image 001.jpg
>>
>> Image 002.jpg
>>
>> Etc. to display them in the proper order. Since you now have your files
>> in
>> the order you want in a folder, rename again if you want to copy them to
>> a
>> CD and play this CD in a DVD player. Easy to do. Download the free
>> software
>> from here:
>>
>> www.irfanview.com
>>
>> Once installed, open it and click on File and Batch conversion/renaming.
>>
>> Select the files to rename, select the same folder for the new names.
>> Irfanview will not delete the file names you made with XP. It will add
>> new
>> file names in the same folder (or you can make a new folder). You select
>> a
>> single new name for all the files and 001, 002, 003, etc will be added
>> automatically. Open the folder and you will see the added files. You now
>> copy these files to a CD. Then you just delete these files. Select them,
>> hold the Shift key down and press the Delete key. They are removed and
>> will
>> not go to the Recycle bin if you hold the Shift key down when pressing
>> the
>> Delete key. You will encounter the same problem if you upload your
>> photos
>> to a server on the Internet and you are using the XP naming system. The
>> order will not be displayed properly. You need to use the Image 001.jpg
>> etc
>> system. So, again, once you have your photos in the order you want them
>> and
>> you renamed using XP, simply use irfanview to change the name and upload
>> these files as when preparing them to copy to a CD for display via a DVD
>> player.
>>
>>
>>
>> Note: Although I recommend making a new folder and copying your files
>> there
>> before renaming, there is also another way to do this and you may prefer
>> it
>> once you are comfortable with renaming. Here is how to do it.
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