Re: Re-accruing photos in a slideshow
From: Phil McCracken (Phil_at_McCracken.com)
Date: 10/17/04
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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:37:32 -0500
yves alarie wrote:
> I agree, don't hold much hope.
> You can copy your photo files in a new folder and rename them using a
> numerical order and then select this new folder for screen saver but you
> still will not get the photos to displayed in order.
> If you want to try it, you can batch rename very quickly using XP.
>
> If you need to batch rename and number, you can do this easily with XP.
>
>
>
> Make a new folder on your hard drive.
>
> Name it something easy to remember and search for: year, month, day, event,
> separated by underline. For example:
>
> 2004_09_16_Summer Vacations
>
> Copy the photos you want to place in a particular order into this new
> folder. You can copy photos to this new folder from any photo folder you
> have to make a new collection.
>
> Once the photos are copied in this new folder, open the new folder. Hold the
> Ctrl key down and press the letter A. This will select (highlight in blue)
> all the files in the folder.
>
> Right click on the first file (important to right click on the first file
> because renaming will start from there).
>
> Click on Rename on the opening menu.
>
> Type in the name you want, to replace the current name of the first file.
> Any system will work, such as year, month, day, event. For example type in:
>
> 2003_09_16 Virginia Beach Vacation (1).jpg
>
> and press Enter.
>
> XP will automatically rename all the files (1), (2), (3), etc. and they will
> open in the order (1), (2), (3), etc. If you copy them to a CD, this order
> will be maintained.
>
>
>
> Two important things when renaming using the above method.
>
> 1. Look at the name of the above file, you must include a space between the
> last character of the file name and (1)
>
> 2. When you rename, don't forget to add .jpg after (1). If you forget, XP
> will warn you, so enter .jpg after this warning. If you don't, you will not
> be able to open the file. If you still do not enter .jpg after the warning,
> don't worry. Rename again and enter .jpg
>
>
>
> You can rename any time and as many times as you want. You are not dependent
> on the camera wizard to rename.
>
> You can rename groups of files in a folder (in the example above, the date
> can be 16, 17, 18, etc for each day of your vacation) just select the group
> you want and right click on the first one in the group and rename from
> there.
>
>
>
> You can do even better than this. Suppose you want a slide show and you want
> the last three pictures taken to be the first three or in between some other
> photos, or re-order the photos in any way. Easy to do. Open the folder in
> thumbnail view, use your mouse to place the thumbnails in the order you
> want. Select all the photos and rename. The (1), (2), (3), etc will be added
> in the order you placed the thumbnails. They will stay in this order if you
> copy to a CD because XP lists (or sorts) by file name only on a CD.
>
>
>
> If you have many pictures in this new folder and all you want is to order
> them in chronological order, moving thumbnails in the correct order is
> tedious. Let XP do this for you. Change the View from Thumbnails to Details.
> In the Details view, right click on the column header "Name". This will open
> a list. Click on More at the bottom of the list. A list will open, check the
> box "Date Picture Taken". This will add the column Date Picture Taken in
> the Details view. Then you click on the column header "Date Picture taken"
> and XP will now change the list of files from the name of the files (the
> default) to listing files in chronological order. Now, change the View to
> Thumbnails and they are in chronological order. Select them, rename them
> using the above procedure and you are in business.
>
>
>
> Convenient if you want to make a slide show of pictures from different
> folders. Just make a new folder, copy the photos you want in the new folder,
> place the thumbnails in the order you want and rename.
>
> You are not restricted to only one name (you use one name for one group of
> picture, another for the next group, etc.) and you can control the order in
> which each group will open, by placing a number up front of the file name
> for each group. You may have photos of Christmas, Easter, New Year etc. and
> of different years. Once you have the thumbnails in the order you want,
> select the first group, right click on the first thumbnail in the group and
> rename:
>
> 1_2002 Easter (1).jpg
>
> Then select the second group and rename
>
> 2_2002 Christmas (1).jpg
>
> Placing 1_, 2_, etc in front will control the order of each group and (1)
> controls the order within each group.
>
> If you want to add another group later and you want the photos of this group
> to be, say between 1_ and 2_, use 1a_ in front of the file name.
>
> You may also want to add some more photos in a particular group at a later
> time, say your Christmas group. No problem. Copy the files you want to add
> in the folder, move the thumbnails in the group you want to add them to
> where you want them. Select all the thumbnails in the group, right click on
> the first one and rename. When you rename, you must change the name in order
> for rename to take place. Add something like XYZ after Christmas. Once
> renaming is done, select the same files again and rename again. Remove the
> XYZ and you will be back to the original name.
>
>
>
> Note: There is a disadvantage to changing the original name of files. This
> is why I recommend at the start to make a new folder and copy your original
> files in the new folder before renaming. The disadvantage is this. Many have
> the option of video out from the camera to display the pictures from the
> memory card to a TV for a slide show. If you change the file names and copy
> the files back to your memory card to display on your TV (or even to just
> look at them on the LCD of the camera) your camera will not be able to read
> the files. You can always rename, using the same format (8 characters) that
> your camera uses, but now you have to rename each file. So, be careful what
> you do with your original files.
>
>
>
> Note: Although I recommend making a new folder and copying your files there
> before renaming, there is also another way to do this and you may prefer
> this once you are comfortable with renaming. Here is how to do it.
>
> Open the folder to see your files. Hold the Ctrl key down and press the
> letter A to select (highlight in blue) all the files. Hold the Ctrl key down
> and press the letter C. This makes a copy of all the files to your
> clipboard. Hold the Ctrl key down and press the letter V. This copies
> (pastes) all the files back in your folder. The file names will be the same,
> but the words "Copy of" will be in front of the file names. You then rename
> Copy of files.
>
> This way your original files and renamed files are in the same folder.
>
> This is also very useful when you want to edit a photo with software. You
> always edit "Copy of", never edit your original file.
>
>
>
> You can also use the free Irfanview software to batch rename, available
> here: http://www.irfanview.com/
>
> Note about irfanview (version 3.92). As you will read below, XP has a "new
> way" of listing files by numerical/alphabetical order. It is important to
> understand how the XP way works vs the old way if you want to read files in
> devices using the old way instead of the XP way. XP will read both the old
> and XP way, but will sort (or list) them differently.
>
>
>
> Here is the explanation.
>
>
>
> When you use the above batch renaming system on XP, everything will work
> fine as long as you are on XP. This means your XP hard drive, copy to CD
> etc. However if you go out of XP you will encounter some problems. For
> example, you made a photo CD on XP using the above renaming system and you
> now play this CD in your DVD. Your DVD player will not play the files in the
> same order as displayed on your XP computer. You made the files:
>
> Image (1).jpg
>
> Image (2).jpg
>
> Image (10).jpg
>
> Image (20).jpg
>
> They will be displayed in this order on XP but your DVD player will display
> them in this order:
>
> Image (1).jpg
>
> Image (10).jpg
>
> Image (2).jpg
>
> Image (20).jpg
>
> If you want to upload these files to a Web site, some server will refuse
> files with ( ) in the file name while others will accept them but will
> display them the same way as your DVD player will, as shown above. So, the
> XP way (1),(2), etc. of listing files is not retained.
>
>
>
> So, what are you supposed to do with this conflict between XP and everything
> else.
>
> This is what I do.
>
> 1. Rename with XP with the system given above.
>
> 2. If I want to copy to a CD to play to a DVD or upload to a Web site, I
> then use Irfanview. With Irfanview I rename my XP files using the default in
> Irfanview (the "old way"):
>
> image001.jpg
>
> image002.jpg
>
> etc.
>
> Since Irfanview does not actually rename your original XP file names, it
> only adds new file names in the same folder, I now have two sets of names
> for the same files. I simply copy the Irfanview set of file names to a CD to
> play on a DVD player or to upload to a Web site and once done just delete
> them. When you delete them, they go to the Recycle bin. Open it and delete
> them from the Recycle bin. Or, after you select them for deletion, hold the
> Shift key down and press the Delete key. Holding the shift key down will
> prevent the files to go to the Recycle bin.
>
> All this renaming may seem a little complicated, but you can really
> manipulate things very well by just sitting down and understanding the
> system. With a little practice you can get what you want.
>
> However, before renaming, make sure you make a new folder and copy some
> photo files there so you can practice with no danger to your original files.
>
>
>
> "pcpc" <pcpc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:30F87315-A353-47D1-B397-10C2EA6B7BE1@microsoft.com...
>
>>I have copied some photos in to a file in "my pictures" I made a new
>
> folder
>
>>went to Properties and on the customize tab I selected "photo album". I
>
> then
>
>>started to put the pictures in in order that I want to show them and burn
>>them on a cd. When I burn the cd, because I have some number and some
>
> with
>
>>titles, it saves them numbers first and then alphabetically. I want to
>
> know
>
>>how I can keep them in the order that I want, and then burn them in that
>>order. I am really frustrated with this. I am sure there is a very
>
> simple
>
>>way to do this-----HELP
>
>
>
> "Mike Gellert" <mikegell@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4172211d@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>
>>Hi all,
>>I have collected over the years some 500 photos which I use as a screen
>>saver, slide show. It seems to me, although it is set as random select,
>>some photos appear a lot more than others, some of which I never see.
>>Do you think it would help if I renamed the whole lot, ie. Screensaver 1
>>through to 500 as XP will allow me do. At the present they are all
>>different file names.
>>I'm not holding out much hope though. !
>>Regards Mike
>>
>
>
>
He wants them to appear randomly.
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