Re: defragmentation issues in XP

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Robert

An interesting Disk Defragmenter Report.

The problem could be the fragmented pagefile. This is probably scattered
across the drive causing the free space to be equally fragmented. The
pagefile is of course an immovable file. You also only have 20% free
space. You need something approaching 60% free space to achieve a single
contiguous pagefile. It should, however, be possible to achieve a
considerable improvement.

You need to maximise the free disk space before running disk
defragmenter again.

You can generate more space in the system partition by relocation of
folders. They can be relocated back after the exercise has been
completed.

For Temporary Internet Files select Start, Control Panel, Internet
Options, Temporary Internet Files. Settings, Move Folder.

To move the Outlook Express Store Folder select in Outlook Express
Tools, Options, Maintenance, Store Folder, Change.
http://www.tomsterdam.com/insideoe/files/store.htm

My Documents is one of a number of system created Special Folders
including My Pictures and My Music. These can more easily be relocated
using Tweak Ui. Download TweakUI, one of the MS powertoys, from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/downloads/powertoys.asp

In TweakUi select My Computer, Special Folders. You can scroll down to
see the full list of Special Folders to the left of the Change
Location button.

Next I am not clear how you are cleaning out redundant files. The most
effective way is cCleaner.

An alternative to Disk CleanUp is cCleaner (freeware) which does a more
thorough job than Disk CleanUp. Disk CleanUp has to be run for each user
profile, whereas cCleaner only needs to be run once.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/

With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.

When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.

Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.

Now the two big savings to temporarily win free disk space. Turn off
monitoring by System Restore. The second is to set the pagefile to no
pagefile and reboot the computer. You should have doubled your free disk
space to 40% perhaps more. Another idea might be to temporarily
increase your C partition to 16 gb which would take your free disk space
to 50% to 60%. If you do this do it before you eliminate the pagefile.
You should then run Disk Defragmenter and as soon as it has finished set
your pagefile to a minimum and maximum of 1.4 gb and restart the
computer. You do not want Windows to manage the pagefile as using that
setting causes the pagefile file to fragment. The next step is to reset
System Restore to monitor your C partition (it should not be monitoring
other partitions). The folders you moved earlier can be moved back to C.

If you do not change the pagefile setting it will either stay as a
single contiguous file if you have been totally successful or with the
number of fragments you have achieved. As a consequence the free space
on C will less fragmented and it will be much easier to defragment files
in future.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Stourport, England
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Robert M Jones wrote:
Robert M Jones wrote:
Gerry wrote:
Robert

If you still cannot defragment any files on your C partition please
post a copy of the Disk Defragmenter report. Also to what extent do
you have free disk space elsewhere?


Answering only the second part of your Q- I have loads of space on
other partitions and am able (if I choose) to slide space along to
add to
the C partition (I use BootIt) - I have actually done that to get the
extra 2.5GG space not that long ago.


Thanks for all your help so far.

Okay I have checked various things - disk situation on C: is now
12.5GB total size, with 2.8GB free.
I have run all the cleanup utilities I have available, and removed
several hundred MB

I have also run defrag in Safe Mode - made no difference - it still
was unable to defrag the affected files.

I have checked through the file list to check which might be "in use"
and there are several files which ought not to be locked or "in use"
during a defrag on C:

the largest file I couldn't defrag (apart from the page file) was an
outlook.bak file at around 112MB so I have just moved that to another
partition. The next largest would be about 80MB. I can't see why
Windows Defrag can't cope with defragging an 80MB file when it has
nearly 3GB of free space to play with on a 12.5GB partition.

I would like to try and defrag these files if possible as they are
quite heavily defragmented and I do feel they are slowing Windows
down a fair bit.
Here is my defrag report: (from before I did the cleaning up - but I
have tried a defrag since with little change)

Volume WindowsXP (C:)
Volume size = 12.50 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 9.99 GB
Free space = 2.52 GB
Percent free space = 20 %

Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 19 %
File fragmentation = 36 %
Free space fragmentation = 2 %

File fragmentation
Total files = 46,264
Average file size = 318 KB
Total fragmented files = 73
Total excess fragments = 17,778
Average fragments per file = 1.38

Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 1.40 GB
Total fragments = 1,245

Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 5,455
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0

Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 54 MB
MFT record count = 52,008
Percent MFT in use = 94 %
Total MFT fragments = 4

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Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
343 12 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\1b5b5039.msp
186 12 MB
\WINDOWS\pchealth\helpctr\Database\HCdata.edb 187 12 MB
\Documents and Settings\Other users\Local Settings\Temporary
Internet Files\Content.IE5\SP2Z0HQB\baptisms_2007_web[1].wmv 223
15 MB \Documents and Settings\Robert user\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\*****.default\urlclassifier3.sqlite
176 16 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\122241b.msp 498
16 MB \WINDOWS\Installer\1b5b5022.msp 163 16
MB \Program Files\Sunbelt
Software\VIPRE\Definitions\ThreatDT.vdx 191 17 MB
\Documents and Settings\Robert user\Local Settings\Application
Data\Skype\{***********}\Skype.msi 209 17 MB
\Documents and Settings\Other users\Local Settings\Application
Data\Skype\{*****************}\Skype.msi 270 17 MB
\WINDOWS\repair\RegBack\software 268 17 MB
\Documents and Settings\Robert Admin\Local Settings\Application
Data\Identities\{********************}\Microsoft\Outlook
Express\Sent Items.dbx 279 17 MB
\WINDOWS\Internet
Logs\vsmon_on_demand_2008_11_25_00_14_18_full.dmp.zip 245
18 MB \Documents and Settings\Robert user\Application
Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\*****.default\News\news.mozilla.org\mozilla.support.firefox.msf
515 20 MB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application
Data\Symantec\LiveUpdate\Downloads\********jtun_nav2k6enn11m25.m25.full.zip
306 21 MB \Documents and Settings\Robert
user\Local Settings\Temp\SkypeSetup.exe 345 21 MB
\Documents and Settings\Other users\Local
Settings\Temp\SkypeSetup.exe 266 23 MB \System
Volume
Information\_restore{****************}\RP851\snapshot\_REGISTRY_MACHINE_SOFTWARE
490 42 MB \Program Files\Java\jre6\lib\rt.jar
345 42 MB \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Documents\RBBofBible Games.pdf 344 42 MB
\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\My Pictures\RBBofBible
Games.pdf 202 45 MB \Documents and
Settings\All Users\Documents\zlsSetup_70_483_000_en.exe 812
51 MB \Documents and Settings\Robert user\Local
Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\*********.proxy
profile\urlclassifier3.sqlite 804 53 MB
\Documents and Settings\Robert user\Local Settings\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\********.default\urlclassifier3.sqlite
762 53 MB \Documents and Settings\Other
users\Local Settings\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\********.default\urlclassifier3.sqlite
206 59 MB \WINDOWS\Internet Logs\tvDebug.zip
200 62 MB \Program Files\Sunbelt
Software\VIPRE\Definitions\ctid.vtd 1,111 69 MB
\Documents and Settings\Robert Admin\Local
Settings\Temp\{AA84D3FF-256D-470E-B93E-2E24F508273C}\SBVIPRE_DEFS_EN.msi
1,013 69 MB \Documents and Settings\Robert
Admin\Local
Settings\Temp\{081205AF-2BC2-4E49-ACFB-0EB574F86E47}\SBVIPRE_DEFS_EN.msi
975 85 MB \Documents and Settings\Robert
user\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook\Outlook.bak
1,533 112 MB \WINDOWS\system32\drivers\fidbox.dat

Once gain thanks


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