Re: Question for Shenan Stanley MVP or MVP(s)
- From: "Dallas Overturf" <dallas.overturf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 05:09:54 GMT
Finally got up to my friend's house to resolve this anomaly on his Sony
computer and figured I'd post the resoluton...
Sony Tech Support gets a thumbs up on this one; they were kind enough to
respond to an email (quickly)with something very helpfull.
In my friend's case he had a GigaPocket TV Tuner/Recorder on his PC (the
reason Sony created the Extra D: partition) so that the TV tuner/recorder
canNot fill UP XP's OS partition (C:); the really helpfull thing they
explained was that if your system expects a D: drive on there and you delete
the D: drive; The Gigapocket software will re-create it's folder on D: once
you add back in D:
In my friend's case I had an extra 40G drive from when I upgraded and just
put it as the sec. on the IDE cable so it became D:
Boot up and all is well with that now. Sony's reply makes me suspect that
there may have been more than one way other
than them adding the D: partition; but that is just my speculation based on
the wording of the reply. I will note that Giga pocket
stuff kept trying to load until finally we added a Drive D: Then all was
good and his gigapocket worked fine.
Now his 120G drive is 100% devoted to the OS and Apps. I will not that his
Sony Recovery CDs do indeed create the 2nd partiition.
Hope that helps someone else out there. Thanks and
regards to all, Dallas...
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"Dallas Overturf" <dallas.overturf@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thank you very much Shenan and Kerry for confirming the xcopy method won't
work. I'll try the WD utilities
followed by using PM per Shenan. Stuff on D: drive is minimal and can be
copied and reloaded.
Sorry about the thread change, I thought it made sense in this case.
Thanks and Regards to all,
Dallas...
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"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Dallas Overturf wrote:
Here's the scenario: A Friend of mine a couple years back bought a
Sony Vaio PCVRZ22G Desktop PC ;
it has plenty of memory (512Mb) and and an 80GB disk (which for him
is plenty).
They never mentioned to him (a technologically challenged person)
that they split the disk into
a 20GB boot and OS partition drive C: AND a 60GB partition drive
D: where he should install all else onto D:.
Needless to say he is running out of disk space due to this
nonsensical setup. and installing and saving things in the default
manner. Note: Sony suggeste changing My Documents to point into the D:
drive which I did but it was too little to late.
he keeps running very low on disk space (Megabytes vs. Gigabytes)
and he is sick of it.
Sony's reply on it was that it was done due to XP becoming
unuseable if it runs out of disk space; duh!
Question(s): He wants me to make a bootable backup of the hard
drive onto (a largerWestern Digital 120GB WD1200JB ) drive and
then turn it into a single partition; once working. Will Partition
Magic be able to do this automagically? AND what software should I
use for Safely copying the original XP Home OS onto the new drive?
(freeware would be preferred for this if available).
Does Partion Magic fix the registry entries for stuff on the
current D: drive to point to C: if you convert to one partition?
Any Caveats or advice appreciated! I've
heard of but never used Partition Magic before.
Dallas Overturf wrote:
Shenan: You appear to disagree with something Andrew said. I
was a bit surprised by the reference to using
XCOPY. Is there a good way to do what I want to do that you know
of or can point me to a reference on it???
I'll be driving 45min to my friend's house to try to help him. I'm
going to try and do it on my own system first
to verify it works. If it was DOS I know it would not work; but
for XP I don't know what's changed in the boot process.
Would my reply asking about formatting allow the Xcopy to work? Thread
is below...
In the future - please do not change the subject line. It breaks up the
thread.
Andrew E. is known for giving bad information.
He is someone who still states - despite being pointed to references to
the contrary - that there is no update path from Windows XP Home to
Windows XP Professional.
Back to your question - unsnipped for this off-shoot of the thread.
Has your friend installed anything on D? Surely - in all this time -
something is installed on D.
In any case - you can just use Partition Magic to resize C and D as they
are now.
Partition Magic, BootITNG, etc..
You should backup things first.
You could also uninstall the applications now installed on C and use the
media to install them on D this time - as well as some cleanup on C...
Archiving old files/installation executables, etc... Get them off the
machine completely. CD/DVD/external hard disk drive.
The other (best) alternative is to use an imaging utility (Symantec
Ghost, Acronis TrueImage, BootIT NG or a host of other possibilities) to
backup the individual partitions to an image on an external hard
disk/network share and then utilize the same application to restore the
image to partitions on the new drive (you can pre-create the partitons
with a boot disk/Windows XP CD) - maintaining the C and D setup. From
this point on - make sure everything your friend installs is done onto D
and they start saving their stuff elsewhere (files/folders they make.)
XCOPY just is not going to do the job, especially with NTFS in the
works - which I would assume it is. Even with FAT32 - Windows XP just
wasn't made to be copied in that way. While I have gotten that method to
work with Windows 95 - I have not seen it work since nor has there been
any great push to make it work. The products like those already
mentioned were MEANT to do this for you and reliably... although - good
backups are always encouraged.
In other words - Andrew E.'s method will *not* work... Xcopy (for one
thing) is just not going to copy all the files you have 'in use'. I
suggest you use one of the tools listed above - as those are made to do
this and their instructions are listed on their web pages and documented
throughout the web.... Also - new (retail) hard disk drives come with
imaging utilities....
Western Digital was mentioned, so...
http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1095&p_sid=JhHvqIri&p_lva=1151&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9Mjg3JnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2NhdHM9MCZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX2ZubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PXRyYW5zZmVy&p_li
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