Re: System Volume Information Won't Die




"M and D" wrote
Hi Bert:

Many thanks for your informative reply.

You're very welcome.

Because I am dilligent about backing up -- bordering on fanatical -- I
turned off System Restore on all drives long ago.

I can understand turning off SR before making a backup or image to save
space, but would suggest turning it back on for every day use. It can
fix most problems that are detected early. And is much quicker than
restoring a backup.

I also removed the Indexing Service long ago, from Add/Remove Windows
Components. And because I have the Home edition of XP, EFS encryption is
not supported.

Good.

The SVI folders I'm talking about came from the merged partitions, i.e.,
partitions that no longer exist. What I have in the resulting partition
is that partition's own SVI folder, and two additional SVI folders for
partitions that don't exist. I don't understand why it is that I cannot
get rid of the two redundant SVI folders.

Boot into Safe Mode with administrator rights. Take ownership of each
SVI folder and delete them all. One new SVI should be created.

If I had to do it again, I would delete the two partitions instead of
merging them into the third partition. (You recall that I had previously
moved the user files from the old partitions to the new.)

That makes sense. Do all partitioning and restore the saved files to the
new partition. This can still be done if the above doesn't work.

Nonetheless, once I realized what had happened, I went to the System
Restore tab in Control Panel to be sure that System Restore really was
turned off on all drives. It really was. What's more, in the list of
available drives to protect, which was greyed out like I thought it
would be, there were no entries for the two former partitions.

Unless I'm still not 'getting it', I think my only recourse is a Knoppix
CD, as someone else sugested, or one of those DOS disks that can 'see'
NTFS. I'm not the sort to go mucking around in the registry. Thanks
again for your help.

I don't think this will be necessary.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org


Daddy

"Bert Kinney" wrote
Hi,

The System Volume Information (SVI) folder is a super hidden system
folder. There will be a SVI folder on each partition or volume Windows
sees. The SVI folder can not be permanently deleted on any partition
of
volume. If a particular partition or volume is set to not be monitored
by System Restore, the Indexing Service is turned off, and EFS is not
in
use, the SVI should be empty or nearly empty.

System Restore uses the SVI folder to store it's information and hold
restore points.

If the Indexing Service is turned on (it's turned off by default), it
will use the SVI folder to store files. This will evident by the
existence of a folder called catalog.wci. Keep in mind that having the
Indexing Service turned on can cause the SVI folder to grow very
large.

If Encrypting File System (EFS) is in use, it will use the SVI folder
to
store the log file that is generated during the encryption and
decryption process.

After making the partition changes you described, you will want to
check
the "System Restore Setting" to make sure only the Windows or system
partition is the only partition being monitored by System Restore.

You will then want to test System Restore to make sure it is
functioning
correctly. To do so, create a new restore point named TEST.
Create a new shortcut on the desktop and point it to My Computer or
any
other file of your choice and name it TEST.
Now restore to the Test restore point.
The system will now reboot, and you will receive a message if the
restore was successful, and the Test shortcut on the desktop will be
gone.

--
Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org

"M and D" wrote
[Windows XP Home SP 2]

After reading some good advice in these newsgroups I decided to
simplify
my life with fewer partitions. I used to have separate partitions for
Pictures, Music and Videos.

Using Partition Magic I combined the Music and Video partitions into
the
partition formerly known as Pictures, which I renamed Media.
Everything went great.

Prior to combining the partitions, I moved the shell folders for My
Music and My Videos out of their former partitions into the Media
partition (formerly known as Pictures.) Everything went great.

When Partition Magic merges partitions, it combines their content,
which
is as you would expect. Since I already moved \My Music and \My
Videos,
there was nothing left in these partitions besides a few empty Windows
shell folders, including System Volume Information (SVI). I understand
that SVI is used by System Restore. So now I have the old SVI folders
in
my Media partition, and here's the problem: I can't get rid of these
buggers.

I never understood why I had SVI folders in my former Pictures, Music
and Videos partitions, since they weren't being monitored by System
Restore. Anyway, now I'm stuck with the old SVI folders from my former
partitions.

I tried deleting them from Safe Mode, using both my Administrator
account and the machine Administrator account. No success. I tried
taking ownership...I already had ownership. I even tried deleting from
a
command prompt in Safe Mode. No success. Can't delete them. Can't move
them.

What do I have to do to get rid of these SVI folders? Please don't
suggest the Recovery Console. I don't have a slipstream version and
I'm
not going to make one just for this. Thanks for your help.

Daddy


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