Re: Restore vs Backup

Your goal is best achieved with disk imaging software. Some popular choices
(no order is intended):

Norton Ghost 10
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/backup_recovery/ghost10/index.html

Acronis True Image 9
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/

Image for Windows http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/imagew.html
-- 
Ted Zieglar
"You can do it if you try."

"Pete B" <petebarnes@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e4K5Xo2JGHA.3728@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> OK thanks.  Maybe I am not being specific enough as to what my purpose is
in
> all this, it is pretty simple.  I want to, essentially, back up my PC to
the
> point where, if it totally crashes, say with a BSD when I try to boot up
> that will not let me boot up. I want to be able to do an emergency boot
from
> a floppy or bootable CD and then restore my system to whatever state I had
> in that backup.  I want to back up all my data files and all the files and
> info that WinXP needs to get me back to the state I was in when I made the
> backup, so I can recover from the crash.
>
> Backup wizard gives me an option to save all files and info which it says
it
> will follow the save by then creating a boot floppy, but that is not what
I
> want because it tries to save everything on the HDD.  I don't need to do
> that, I just need to save the dynamic personal data and the Windows
recovery
> stuff.  If I lose the software apps itself, it will be a pain but I can
> always go back and reinstall all of those, so I don't need to save that
30GB
> of files for the programs themselves and such.
>
> I can do the Backup Advanced, where I select manually, and select the
> Automated Sys Rec Wizard but that tries to save the whole partition.  Or I
> can select the Backup tab and individually select the folders and the
system
> state components, but does that follow with a boot floppy creation if I do
> it?  Seems to me that would let me select exactly what to save, but I
still
> may not be getting all that I need to recover from a failure.
>
> It was easier in the old versions of Windows, you could just tell Windows
> Setup to create a bootable CD and it would do the rest.  This XP method
> seems highly complicated.   That is really my whole goal here.  So what
> should I do?
>
> And I surely wish MS would make the Backup util so it would save direct to
a
> DVD-R or DVD-RW drive.....
>
> -- 
> Pete B
>
>
> "Bert Kinney" <bert@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%232mp$TtJGHA.648@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Hi Pete,
> >
> > <Snip from the following article>
> > System State data includes the following:
> > Boot files, including the system files
> > Files protected by Windows File Protection (WFP)
> > The registry
> > Performance counter configuration information
> > The Component Services class registration database
> >
> > Windows XP Resource Kit: Backing Up and Restoring Data
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c14621675.mspx#EFAA
> >
> > What's restored and what's not using System Restore:
> >
> >    * Restored
> >         Registry (note: some current values will persist)
> >         Profiles (local only—roaming user profiles not impacted by
> > restore)
> >         COM+ DB
> >         WFP.dll cache
> >         WMI DB
> >         IIS Metabase
> >         Files with extensions listed in the Monitored File Extensions
list
> >    * Not Restored
> >         DRM settings
> >         SAM hives (does not restore passwords)
> >         WPA settings (Windows authentication information is not
restored)
> >         Contents of the My Documents folder(s)
> >         Specific directories/files listed in the Monitored File
Extensions
> > list
> >         Any file with an extension not listed in the Monitored File
> > Extensions list
> >         Items listed in both Filesnottobackup and KeysnottoRestore
> > (hklm->system->controlset001->control->backuprestore->filesnottobackup
and
> > keysnottorestore)
> >         User-created data stored in the user profile
> >         Contents of redirected folders
> >
> > -- 
> > Regards,
> > Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
> > http://bertk.mvps.org
> >
> >
> >
> > Pete B wrote:
> >> Thanks, Ted.  What I specifically was wondering about, though,is
> >> backup of the system state components in Backup, not the whole
> >> Windows installation (or is that what system state components means).
> >> Backing up my whole Windows installation would, I presume, require a
> >> lot more than just the system state components, right?
> >>
> >> What specifically is included or not included in that group called
> >> sytem state components in Backup?  Are there other things that are
> >> saved/restored with the System Restore util that would not be part of
> >> that selection? Understand I am talking about doing a custom Backup,
> >> where you select exactly what is backed up;  one of the selections
> >> under advanced mode is the system state components.
> >>
> >> Of course, I suppose I might find some of the answers by reading the
> >> technet article  :=).
> >>
> >> Which I just did.  But I am still not clear what the difference is
> >> between Backup and Sys Restore in this respect.  Is it better to use
> >> System Restore or Backup before, say, installing a new software app
> >> that one does not know all that well?
> >>
> >>
> >> "Ted Zieglar" <teddy.z@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:efzmGrdJGHA.964@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Good question. When you backup your entire system, you include your
> >>> entire Windows installation. A restore point only contains the
> >>> registry and certain
> >>> key system and user files.
> >>>
> >>> "Frequently Asked Questions Regarding System Restore in Windows XP"
> >>>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/faqsrwxp.mspx
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Ted Zieglar
> >>> "You can do it if you try."
> >>>
> >>> "Pete B" <petebarnes@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> news:%23yE%233TdJGHA.312@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> What is the difference in WinXP Pro between saving a System Restore
> >>>> point,
> >>>> as compared to saving a system backup using the Backup utility to
> >>>> save the
> >>>> system state components?  Other than the preference of Backup to use
> >>>> external storage media, I mean....
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there any KB article or Tech info that describes exactly what
> >>>> each utility does in detail like this?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Pete B
> >
> >
>
>

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