Re: Restore vs Backup
- From: "Pete B" <petebarnes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 14:00:04 -0600
OK thanks. Maybe I am not being specific enough as to what my purpose is in all this, it is pretty simple. I want to, essentially, back up my PC to the point where, if it totally crashes, say with a BSD when I try to boot up that will not let me boot up. I want to be able to do an emergency boot from a floppy or bootable CD and then restore my system to whatever state I had in that backup. I want to back up all my data files and all the files and info that WinXP needs to get me back to the state I was in when I made the backup, so I can recover from the crash. Backup wizard gives me an option to save all files and info which it says it will follow the save by then creating a boot floppy, but that is not what I want because it tries to save everything on the HDD. I don't need to do that, I just need to save the dynamic personal data and the Windows recovery stuff. If I lose the software apps itself, it will be a pain but I can always go back and reinstall all of those, so I don't need to save that 30GB of files for the programs themselves and such. I can do the Backup Advanced, where I select manually, and select the Automated Sys Rec Wizard but that tries to save the whole partition. Or I can select the Backup tab and individually select the folders and the system state components, but does that follow with a boot floppy creation if I do it? Seems to me that would let me select exactly what to save, but I still may not be getting all that I need to recover from a failure. It was easier in the old versions of Windows, you could just tell Windows Setup to create a bootable CD and it would do the rest. This XP method seems highly complicated. That is really my whole goal here. So what should I do? And I surely wish MS would make the Backup util so it would save direct to a DVD-R or DVD-RW drive..... -- Pete B "Bert Kinney" <bert@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:%232mp$TtJGHA.648@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Hi Pete, > > <Snip from the following article> > System State data includes the following: > Boot files, including the system files > Files protected by Windows File Protection (WFP) > The registry > Performance counter configuration information > The Component Services class registration database > > Windows XP Resource Kit: Backing Up and Restoring Data > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c14621675.mspx#EFAA > > What's restored and what's not using System Restore: > > * Restored > Registry (note: some current values will persist) > Profiles (local only?roaming user profiles not impacted by > restore) > COM+ DB > WFP.dll cache > WMI DB > IIS Metabase > Files with extensions listed in the Monitored File Extensions list > * Not Restored > DRM settings > SAM hives (does not restore passwords) > WPA settings (Windows authentication information is not restored) > Contents of the My Documents folder(s) > Specific directories/files listed in the Monitored File Extensions > list > Any file with an extension not listed in the Monitored File > Extensions list > Items listed in both Filesnottobackup and KeysnottoRestore > (hklm->system->controlset001->control->backuprestore->filesnottobackup and > keysnottorestore) > User-created data stored in the user profile > Contents of redirected folders > > -- > Regards, > Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User > http://bertk.mvps.org > > > > Pete B wrote: >> Thanks, Ted. What I specifically was wondering about, though,is >> backup of the system state components in Backup, not the whole >> Windows installation (or is that what system state components means). >> Backing up my whole Windows installation would, I presume, require a >> lot more than just the system state components, right? >> >> What specifically is included or not included in that group called >> sytem state components in Backup? Are there other things that are >> saved/restored with the System Restore util that would not be part of >> that selection? Understand I am talking about doing a custom Backup, >> where you select exactly what is backed up; one of the selections >> under advanced mode is the system state components. >> >> Of course, I suppose I might find some of the answers by reading the >> technet article :=). >> >> Which I just did. But I am still not clear what the difference is >> between Backup and Sys Restore in this respect. Is it better to use >> System Restore or Backup before, say, installing a new software app >> that one does not know all that well? >> >> >> "Ted Zieglar" <teddy.z@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:efzmGrdJGHA.964@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Good question. When you backup your entire system, you include your >>> entire Windows installation. A restore point only contains the >>> registry and certain >>> key system and user files. >>> >>> "Frequently Asked Questions Regarding System Restore in Windows XP" >>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/faqsrwxp.mspx >>> >>> -- >>> Ted Zieglar >>> "You can do it if you try." >>> >>> "Pete B" <petebarnes@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:%23yE%233TdJGHA.312@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> What is the difference in WinXP Pro between saving a System Restore >>>> point, >>>> as compared to saving a system backup using the Backup utility to >>>> save the >>>> system state components? Other than the preference of Backup to use >>>> external storage media, I mean.... >>>> >>>> Is there any KB article or Tech info that describes exactly what >>>> each utility does in detail like this? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Pete B > > .
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