Re: defrag & C:WINDOWS/0, 4, 6, 8, 9
From: cquirke (MVP Win9x) (cquirkenews_at_nospam.mvps.org)
Date: 01/22/05
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Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:31:48 +0200
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:13:01 -0800, Steph.
>I have freed-up all the space I could.
>Deleted all tmp and log files.
>Outlook is very small (I don't use it for mail). I use Thunderbird for mail
>and I did compact the folders.
OK; looks good. Did you clear and shrink your web cache in each
browser, for each user account? That can waste a huge mount of space!
For sound reasons, each web browser will generally use a different
cache for each user account. What is unsound is the size of this
cache, as defaulted by the web browser.
Netscape and Firefiox use 50M or so, which is a bit too much and can
be scaled back to 10-20M if you'd rather have the disk space.
But Internet Explorer defaults to a % of the HD, and that can mean a
cache of anything from 256M to over 1G, per user!
>System Restore as never worked. Whenever I try to get into it to reduce it's
>allocation, I get the message that it will only work after reboot but never did.
Odd for XP; I've not seen that behavior at all. Do you have some
other software that does the same sort of thing and that might
interfere, such as GoBack perhaps?
>IE is set with 1MB temp/cookie folder and history for 2 days, so no prob
Agreed. As you can tell, I reply as I read, else I wouldn't have
written quite a lot of what I did ;-)
>Soooo, my strange files have dates matching my last defrags.
Ugly.
>They probably are some leftover files from defrag
Defrag should not be creating files at all - or certainly not like
this. Scandisk (Win9x) and ChkDsk can create files when lost data
cluster chains are recovered, but Defrag isn't supposed to do this;
it's supposed to look for errors and, if found, back out and tell you
do do file system repair. Even when the repair tools create files,
they are always in the root of the volume (or in a recovered dir
that's off the root) and always have typical names.
>...but I just cant't get rid of them, plus they are using most of my
>16 Gig partition that should only contain Windows and my
>antieverything programs.
>And defrag report says that my mysterious files cannot be defragmented. And
>trying to delete them comes back saying that they are system files in use
Do NOT defrag a sick system!!! A file system containing insane files
that can't be deleted etc. IS a sick system.
Back to basics; in fact, given the risk of data loss that applies
here, I'd go right back to this:
http://cquirke.mvps.org/pccrisis.htm
My logic is as follows:
- normal healthy systems don't generate huge insane files
- therefore this system is either:
- abnormal (malware), or
- unhealthy (flaky hardware)
- either way, data can be lost at any time
- either way, defrag is contraindicated
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