Re: Formula for pagefile
From: David Candy (david_at_mvps.org)
Date: 10/15/04
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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:01:40 +1000
I set mine to 1 gig. In 9x setting it to the free disk space was setting it to the max (windows knew). Maybe the same thing applies
-- ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.uscricket.com "Peter" <noSpam@dotnet> wrote in message news:OCbEA3ksEHA.220@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > David, the system wouldn't let me leave a blank for maximum - here is a pic > of the applet > > -- > Peter. > Toronto, Canada. > Windows XP Home SP2. > P4 Dual HT @ 3.0ghz, 160gb HD, 1.0gb DDR. > "Peter" <noSpam@dotnet> wrote in message > news:%23nuq9rksEHA.636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> My settings were at around 1533mb for a 1.0gb DDR (around the 1.5 mark) so >> you say set a minimum but no maximum? I'm off to defrag as we speak. >> >> -- >> Peter. >> Toronto, Canada. >> Windows XP Home SP2. >> P4 Dual HT @ 3.0ghz, 160gb HD, 1.0gb DDR. >> "David Candy" <david@mvps.org> wrote in message >> news:%23w3sCQjsEHA.2800@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... >> I don't believe that system managed is the best choice due to >> fragmentation >> isssues. A good sized minimun and no max is the best but you have to >> defrag >> before setting the minimum (else the fragmentation issue isn't addressed). >> >> Fragmentation isn't that big an issue in itself but as it's the swap file >> the memory used by windows to manage the swap must stay in memory and each >> fragment requires extra memory so windows can find it. That means less >> memory for your programs which will force more paging. >> >> Likewise each Fat32 disk takes up enourmous amounts (20 meg for a 40 gig >> disk) of non pagable memory while an NTFS disk uses 200K of memory, >> 1/100th >> as much. >> >> I don't like air conditioners. I choose where I live in Winter and was >> just >> to taken with all that sunshine flooding in. I leave the window open >> 24/7/365. I sleep on top of the bed and only wear a T-shirt all year round >> (with a light jacket if I go out at night in winter) It wasn't till after >> I >> paid the deposit that the thought occured to me that good in winter means >> bad in summer. 5 years ago we had a storm (which is why a minor hail storm >> is now big news) with baseball sized hail. I was trapped outside as I had >> just left the supermarket - I was 20 metres away from it - and it started. >> I >> was pressed up against a wall, with every car alarm going beserk, being >> hit >> from the ribcage down, the ice was shattering and sending ice shards >> flying >> so I had my hands over my eyes protecting them. And it took an hour or so >> before I would trust that it had stopped to go the rest of the way home. >> It >> took many years before Australia could make enough roof tiles to repair >> the >> damage. My window was open about an inch at home (I lived on the ground >> floor then so I closed my window if I wasn't home) and the ice had >> shattered >> and come in and my bed was covered with about 6 inches (150mm) of ice. The >> bed was very cold. >> -- >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> http://www.uscricket.com >> "Peter" <noSpam@dotnet> wrote in message >> news:OVqrC%23isEHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >>> David, Firstly (re: Pagefile) is "System Managed" Ok for settings? >>> Secondly, get yourself an air conditioner. If I recall last summer in OZ >>> was extremely hot. >>> >>> -- >>> Peter. >>> Toronto, Canada. >>> Windows XP Home SP2. >>> P4 Dual HT @ 3.0ghz, 160gb HD, 1.0gb DDR. >>> "David Candy" <david@mvps.org> wrote in message >>> news:OijBmyisEHA.2548@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >>> I'm in Sydney and it's been 37/38° (100°F) already, can you believe that. >>> I've only seen snow once in my life. It's cool now but inside is still >>> hot. >>> I sat in the rain last night at 3am to cool down. >>> >>> Sydney: Dry, mostly sunny. 23 (73.4°F) is >>> the >>> max today thankfully. >>> >>> Conversion is from the updated calculator from >>> http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/outreach/dnloads/downloads.mspx >>> >>> While we don''t get snow (except this year it did snow, a couple of >>> flakes, >>> in sydney near the mountains) we do get hail >>> http://www.smh.com.au/ftimages/2004/09/06/1094322704029.html >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> http://www.uscricket.com >>> "Sheila" <Sheila@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:34D04A0C-0179-4A04-9929-F8740A5F2A4A@microsoft.com... >>>> David, >>>> >>>> Thank you so much for your suggestions, I will give it a try and let you >>>> know how it goes...that's if we don't get snow bound tonight..it is >>>> North >>>> Dakota and they are forcasting snow already...can you believe that? >>>> >>>> Sheila >>>> >>>> "David Candy" wrote: >>>> >>>>> The important thing is to set a large minimun (100MB sounds fine but >>>>> tailor it to yourself). >>>>> >>>>> With no swap file and same memory as you I can open around 34 programs. >>>>> But if you use large data sets (like video editing) 1 Gig may be too >>>>> small. >>>>> >>>>> The critical thing is to set the minimun to the maximun that you, >>>>> personally, actually use. You don't want the swap file fragmented (each >>>>> fragment chews up real memory so 2 fragments is unimportant but 1000 is >>>>> really bad). >>>>> >>>>> But you must make this minimum unfragmented. Set swap to nothing, >>>>> defrag >>>>> (you should have enough real memory to do this, if not set a small >>>>> swap), >>>>> then set the minimun size to what you observe the largest size it grows >>>>> to in normal use (hidden file called c:\pagefile.sys). >>>>> >>>>> I use a 768MB minimun so it never needs to grow at all. I never use >>>>> anywhere near that. If I was you I'd set a 1 gb minimum (you seem to be >>>>> able to afford it - might as well give it to the swap than having it do >>>>> nothing) and no maximun for that day you need to open a large file or >>>>> 300 >>>>> programs at once. I personally do set a 1 gb max but that is from >>>>> habit. >>>>> >>>>> Setting max to 0 is a bad idea and will slow down the computer. It will >>>>> force windows to page out code it's using and keep data that is not >>>>> being >>>>> used - the opposite of what you want. >>>>> -- >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> http://www.uscricket.com >>>>> "Sheila" <Sheila@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:763487BB-13C0-42A5-A626-26D56DB6AAC9@microsoft.com... >>>>> > Thanks everyone for your help.. >>>>> > considering that I have 512MB ram and 75GB HD would this setting work >>>>> > out ok? >>>>> > >>>>> > minimum 100MB >>>>> > Maximum 1GB? does the maximum matter? >>>>> > I read that article that will suggested and from what I understood, >>>>> > those >>>>> > settings would be ok..any suggestions? >>>>> > >>>>> > thanks again...very much.. >>>>> > Sheila >>>>> > >>>>> > "David Candy" wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> The formula is 1.5 times physical RAM. But it's just something >>>>> >> picked >>>>> >> out of a hat, nothing magical about it. If it's too small you won't >>>>> >> be >>>>> >> able to open anymore programs (without closing some) when it's >>>>> >> filled >>>>> >> up. Windows requires 1 and a bit times RAM for full functionality >>>>> >> (but >>>>> >> the function that needs this is turned off by default). >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Don't ever get trapped by people saying disable VM - you can't to >>>>> >> begin with and disabling the page file (which does NOT disable VM) >>>>> >> will make windows go beserk trying to page. It can only page into >>>>> >> font >>>>> >> files and exe files. So it will dump your program code from memory. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> http://www.uscricket.com >>>>> >> "Sheila" <Sheila@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> >> news:0B90528F-9322-4DD0-B7BB-0E9F128EE359@microsoft.com... >>>>> >> >I have heard that there is a formula for setting a pagefile, does >>>>> >> >anyone know >>>>> >> > if that is true? I have a XP macine with 512MB ram 75gb HD and it >>>>> >> > seems to >>>>> >> > be running far too slow. Can some suggest a setting that I could >>>>> >> > use to >>>>> >> > maybe improve performance? >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > thanks, >>>>> >> > Sheila >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
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