Re: SP2 is a problem
From: John F. (juantana_at_newsgroups.microsoft.com)
Date: 09/01/04
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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 07:35:11 -0700
Sandman, you are right on the money, and as far as the wonderful "learning
curve" goes, I am an IT professional & I cant figure this mess out! Plus
like you said who wants to - with the money you spend it should work. I can
tell you that if my company developed software this way we'd be out of
business. Just my humble observation, but SP2 seems to work fine on generic
XP, but not on the other flavors like MCE or Tablet. I personally hosed my
Media Ctr & I could kick myself - it still doesnt work & I have reformatted &
rebuilt it twice. If MS wants to be in our living rooms then they need to
thoroughly test this stuff before releasing it, or at least warn that its
just for XP pro. Not only have I lost my main PC but Ive lost my
entertainment center as well - not happy. No TV signal, nothing, & Ive
already missed Stargate... ;-0 Trust me, if I ever get this thing working
again, Aut Updates will be OFF... all SP2 is is a babysitter for your AV
software (which didnt work, BTW), and a firewall I didnt need anyway cause I
have a hardware one. Just my two cents worth, and btw I am MS certified as
well, and I do love MS products.
Juantana
"Sandman" wrote:
> O.K. Since reading your response to this lady, i am going out and buy a
> toaster and a microwave! learning curve is zero......you said.
> Forget the PC; Windows based anyway... I am buying a Linux microwave, to
> hell with it..
> besides, many people didn't have the time to READ all about the problems
> they would have with this BEFORE auto updates loaded it, they thought since
> it was from Microsoft, it was pure as the driven snow...
> IF they had waited and taken the time to learn that it was going to be a
> hassle, maybe they wouldn't have bothered with it at all.
> Aside from all that you MVPs are all simply apologists for microsofts' buggy
> patch.. I am still going to buy a Red Hat Toaster and a Mozilla
> Microwave!.........maybe a FireFox Blender too.
>
> "Ted Zieglar aka Rocky" <teddyz@notmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23pbaaMzjEHA.2680@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > "I take issue with anyone suggesting that it's the customer's
> responsibility
> > to know the intricate workings of a complex product."
> >
> > No one said that it is. And no one has to in order to use Windows
> > successfully.
> >
> > It is, however, the customer's responsibility to read the information
> about
> > SP 2 that Microsoft has made freely available, which information has been
> > widely repeated in the mainstream press, and to prepare accordingly. It
> is
> > also the customer's responsibility to learn how to use their computer
> > correctly.
> >
> > Computers are very different from televisions or toasters. To anyone who
> is
> > not prepared to invest the time and effort needed to learn how to use
> their
> > computer: Stick with a typewriter.
> >
> > Ted Zieglar
> >
> > "Ellen" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:342301c48f2f$44bcdf40$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> > > I work on the internet daily and know much more about
> > > computers than the average user. Those average users are
> > > paying to keep Microsoft in business. SP2 should not have
> > > been released until it was ready. We'll see what happens;
> > > maybe it will install smoothly for most. It's too soon to
> > > tell.
> > >
> > > I take issue with anyone suggesting that it's the
> > > customer's responsibility to know the intricate workings
> > > of a complex product. Maintenence yes; beyond that, the
> > > responsibilty lies with the manufacturer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >What you feel about the idea of a new computer does not
> > > change the
> > > >facts.
> > > >If you feel the idea was "condescending and
> > > unprofessional", that is
> > > >your opinion about another fact.
> > > >
> > > >Do you want SP-2 with minimal problems and fully
> > > functional
> > > >immediately?
> > > >Or are you able to learn a little bit and do what is
> > > necessary to get
> > > >an existing computer working with SP-2?
> > > >If someone is incapable or unwilling to do the second,
> > > how is that
> > > >"condescending and unprofessional" to suggest they may
> > > need a new
> > > >computer?
> > > >That would be a bad choice for many, but if they want it
> > > all and now,
> > > >that is their choice and not Microsoft's or anyone
> > > else's.
> > > >Or are you closed minded to possible options?
> > > >
> > > >Is there any major software of any kind available that
> > > would not pose
> > > >similar problems if installation was attempted on a
> > > nearly infinite
> > > >variety of computers in this large a number?
> > > >That is exactly why many buy computers specifically to
> > > support a
> > > >mission essential item.
> > > >
> > > >If you feel "Microsoft forced the SP-2 on me with no
> > > warning of all
> > > >its PROBLEMS", you did not take the time to learn about
> > > SP-2 in the
> > > >months before release.
> > > >Microsoft alone had published a great deal of data about
> > > SP-2 in the
> > > >months preceding release.
> > > >If you did not know it was only because you did not look
> > > for the easy
> > > >to find information.
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> > > >http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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