Re: Perfect Disk offline defrag pass is SLOW!!!

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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 16:46:44 -0400

I have ran all sorts of clean up applications, and it still takes close to
an hour. I do have Norton, but the part that protects files is disabled.
This is an offline pass I am talking about, so Norton would not even be
loaded yet. I have turned off the setting in folder properties for hiding
system files and folders. I am going to just keep working on it to see what
is causing it. I am going to go through Norton with a fine-toothed comb to
see what all needs to be disabled or enabled. Online passes go by quicky,
perhaps 15 minutes or so. Is there something that needs to load before PD in
an offline pass?

I really do appreciate all the advice and suggestions though.

Thanks folks,

-- 
JP
jpilgrim@(NOSPAM)bellsouth.net
"Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:etuk$ijbEHA.2660@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> JP
>
> You may have less free space than you think.
>
> To see what is on your hard drive you may need to change a number of
> settings. Select Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced
> Settings, and check "Show hidden files and folders". Whilst there uncheck
> "Hide File Extensions". Also check "Display the contents of system
folders".
>
> These will reveal most files but System Restore points are held in a
System
> Volume Information sub-folder on each drive or partition -in XP there is
one
> for each partition and these will still remain hidden. The restore points
> for the system partition can get very large, especially if you uninstall
and
> reinstall programmes. They can fragment into many pieces. The system
permits
> the creation of many more restore points than most users really need. This
> is why I mentioned the option to remove contained in Disk Cleanup in my
> earlier message.
>
> How to Gain Access to the System Volume Information Folder
>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309531&Product=winxp
>
> Do you use any Symantec / Norton utilities. Norton Protected Storage hides
> large files which users often don't realise are there.
>
> As well as the System Volume Information folder the system partition often
> contains a large MFT folder ( Master File Table ) and usually the
> pagefile.sys file. You cannot defragment the MFT folder which typically
> should be in 2, more often three, fragments. The page file and free space
> can become very fragmented if not defragmented regularly, more so as the
> partition fills up. and this may be what you are encountering. Do other
> housekeeping before running Disk Defragmenter.
>
> -- 
>
> ~~~~~~
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> FCA
>
> Stourport, Worcs, England
> Enquire, plan and execute.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> suggested solution worked for you.
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>
>
> "JP" <jpilgrim@(NOSPAM)bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:%tZKc.10326$GT3.1978@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > My computer is a Dell Dimension 4100. I have two identical systems, one
> for
> > personal use, and the other for business. The personal (not this one)
> > machine runs an offline pass much faster. Both have 10GB C: drives.
> Neither
> > of them is above 50% full. I also have a second harddrive on this
machine
> > where I install new programs and download files. All that is on C is
> system
> > files and support utilities. Is there something I can do with the free
> > space?
> >
> > -- 
> >
> > JP
> > jpilgrim@(NOSPAM)bellsouth.net
> > "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:erwbYBcbEHA.368@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > JP
> > >
> > > A 10 gb hard disk is small for XP. That may be the problem! How much
> free
> > > space on the hard disk? You can  obtain this information by double
> > clicking
> > > the My Computer icon on your Desktop. Place the cursor on your C
drive,
> > > select Properties and the information will be displayed.
> > >
> > > How old is the computer? What was the original version of Windows when
> > > bought new? When and how did you install Windows XP.
> > >
> > > Before running Perfect Disk perform other routine housekeeping first.
A
> > > suggested routine may include:
> > >
> > > 1. In Outlook Express empty your Deleted Items folder.
> > > 2. In Outlook Express run File, Folder, Compact All whilst OFFLINE.
> > > 3. Run Disk Cleanup. Start, Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk
> > > Cleanup with
> > > Temporary Internet Files, Offline Web Pages (optional), System Restore
(
> > > more Options tab )
> > > and Recycle Bin selected for deletion. If you have more than one drive
/
> > > partition you may
> > > need to do this operation for each drive / partition.
> > > 4. Remove Cookies. Start, Control Panel, Internet Options, General,
> Delete
> > > Cookies.
> > > 5. Run Perfect Disk.
> > >
> > > You should run ALL housekeeping tasks whilst Offline and do not carry
> out
> > > other activities whilst they are in progress!
> > >
> > > -- 
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Gerry
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > FCA
> > >
> > > Stourport, Worcs, England
> > > Enquire, plan and execute.
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Please tell the newsgroup how any
> > > suggested solution worked for you.
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> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Quaoar" <quaoar@tenthplanet.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uNzcUgZbEHA.252@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > JP wrote:
> > > > > Defrag weekly, both offline and online. Disk size is 10GB.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:uMEB8wPbEHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > >> No disk size either!
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ~~~~~~
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hope this helps.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Gerry
> > > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > >> FCA
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Stourport, Worcs, England
> > > > >> Enquire, plan and execute.
> > > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > >> Please tell the newsgroup how any
> > > > >> suggested solution worked for you.
> > > > >> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Unknown" <Unknown@Somewhere.Kom> wrote in message
> > > > >> news:7myKc.27$nq6.16@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
> > > > >>> Impossible to say if it were normal since we don't know when you
> > > > >>> defragged last. Do it once a week and you'll see.
> > > > >>> "JP" <jpilgrim@(NOSPAM)bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > > >>> news:BSxKc.6163$GT3.3470@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > > > >>>> Last night I performed an offine defrag pass on C:, and it took
> 24
> > > > >>>> minutes to analyze and another 29 minutes to defragment the
page
> > > > >>>> file, master file tables, and directories. The total time of
the
> > > > >>>> pass was 53 minutes. Is this normal? If not, how can I speed it
> > > > >>>> up? Any comments would be appreciated!
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> FYI:
> > > > >>>> RAM: 512MB
> > > > >>>> pagefile.sys: 766MB
> > > > >>>> Proc. Spd.: 733MHz
> > > > >>>> Drive type: FAT32
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> --
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> JP
> > > > >>>> jpilgrim@(NOSPAM)bellsouth.net
> > > >
> > > > With a 10BGB HD, check the free space.  You should target at least
> > > > 400-500GB free space for XP, and if the disk is heavily fragmented
> even
> > > > that might not be enough for the offline defrag to proceed
> efficiently.
> > > > Since the offline defrag does not take care of the bulk of the disk,
a
> > > > general online defrag might be necessary to provide sufficient free
> > > > space for a speedy offline defrag.
> > > >
> > > > Q
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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