Re: Too Much Memory

From: Michael Soland (MichaelSoland_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 07/19/04


Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 04:42:03 -0700

Hi Gerry,

Thanks for recommending some utilities, however, I would prefer and answer to my question: “is there a gentle way of coaxing programs to stay resident in memory?” [First post of this thread].

My pagefile.sys file stays at 102,400KB. I could go lower, but I don’t want to decrease performance if or when the pagefile needs to increase in size. Running all sorts of programs and crunching data does not increase the size of the pagefile.

I’m just looking for a way to get a performance boost. Virtual memory slows everything down because of the inherent abstraction and IO to a slower medium.
-Michael

"Gerry Cornell" wrote:

> Michael
>
> You are misinterpreting what you are seeing!
>
> Right click on the My Computer icon on your Desktop and select Properties.
> The amount of RAM memory is stated on the General tab. It is unlikely that
> you have 4,096 mb or 3,506 mb for that matter!
>
> "This is the amount of virtual memory that windows reports it is using." No
> it is the amount of disk space set aside for virtual memory. Whether it is
> being used is another matter.
>
> The size of pagefile.sys is not an indicator of virtual memory being used.
> Allocations of virtual memory are made to applications for their use as and
> when they need it. That does not mean they are using it ( you make this
> point yourself ). Read more in the link below:
> http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm
>
> The Article above contains a link to a small Pagefile utility created by
> Bill James, which measures the pagefile in use:
> http://billsway.com/notes%5Fpublic/WinXP%5FTweaks/
>
> Page file in use is the key factor. If you are using too much virtual memory
> you may benefit from adding RAM memory. However, we need to know how much
> virtual memory you are using and how much RAM you have?
>
> How old is your computer? Was the machine bought with Windows XP installed
> or did it come with an earlier version of Windows installed?
>
> Done you have more than one hard drive? Are any drives partitioned?
>
> ~~~~~~
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>
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>
>
> "Michael Soland" <MichaelSoland@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0F7F085B-F6CD-4DBA-9EA2-5F2F7D2410C4@microsoft.com...
> > I have 4096 MB of physical memory. My BIOS reports that I have 3506 MB of
> memory. This is a known issue with my motherboard.
> >
> > There is an easy way to view the amount of virtual memory currently used
> by the system. Go to Control Panel->System->Advanced->Performance,
> Settings->Advanced->Virtual Memory, Changed. The bottom part of the window
> that pops up will say “Total paging file size for all drives.” This is the
> amount of virtual memory that windows reports it is using.
> >
> > If you want to check this information out yourself, all that you need to
> do is find a little file called “pagefile.sys.” This file can live in the
> root directory of any hard drive connected to your system. The Virtual
> Memory screen described above will tell you which drive it is on. If that’s
> confusing, it is probably at C:\pagefile.sys. To view the file, go to My
> Computer->Tools->Folder Options->View. Now select “Display contents of
> system folders” and “Show hidden files and folders” and deselect “Hide
> protected operating system files.” This will allow you to see pagefile.sys.
> Check its size and poof, you know how much virtual memory your system has
> allocated (it is another question altogether if it is using it).
> >
> > Can somebody answer my original questions please?
> > -Michael
> >
> > "Gerry Cornell" wrote:
> >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > How much RAM memory? How do you know how much virtual memory is being
> used?
> > > There is no utility in Windows XP which gives you virtual memory usage!
> You
> > > need a third party utility to get that information!
> > >
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Gerry
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > FCA
> > >
> > > Stourport, Worcs, England
> > > Enquire, plan and execute.
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Please tell the newsgroup how any
> > > suggested solution worked for you.
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> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Michael Soland" <MichaelSoland@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> > > news:6C3C4A0B-51B7-4455-A5A1-608ACE9BA782@microsoft.com...
> > > > I have a beast of a system running Windows XP Pro, when it should
> probably
> > > be running Server 2003. I have a problem with too much memory and not
> enough
> > > programs to run. The Task Manager reports that my system cruises at 304
> MB
> > > of memory used. I know that turning off Virtual Memory is a bad thing,
> but
> > > is there a gentle way of coaxing programs to stay resident in memory?
> > > >
> > > > I'd also like to know if there is a way to associate a certain program
> to
> > > run on a particular processor (in a multi-processor machine) each time
> the
> > > program is invoked.
> > >
> > >
>
>



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