Re: New hard disk

"Dave" <killurpc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Sanford Aranoff wrote:

The Drive Image CD was bootable. I booted from this CD, and did the
restore. It seemed to go fine. "Reboot after restore". I checked yes.
The reboot failed.

Shall I have reformatted the disk prior to booting from the Drive Image
CD?

Drive Image works fine. It creates images, and I can restore individual
files. But when I had to replace the hard disk I could not reboot from
the disk.

My wonder is that we know that hard disks fail frequently. We have
known this for years. Why isn't there a simple way to replace the hard
disk and restore from the image on the external?


Restoring from external disk drives has been done from years. Drive
Image was one of the first to support the use of external SCSI drives.
It could be started from a floppy disk drive which loaded an operating
system into memory and the executable file to clone the new partition
from the image file stored on the external drive. Ghost is another that
had this capability. AFAIK, almost all of the current disk imaging apps
have the capability of self-booting or running from a rudimentary OS
just for the purpose of cloning and, depending on the setup, some other
options. It is about as simple as it can get...practically routine.


Replied in-line:

Just as I thought...someone did not read the DriveImage manual.
It had to be copied from the DriveImage cdrom or from the website
if it had been downloaded. And it would have helped had these 2
questions been directly asked right from the outset.

You did not answer my questions.

1. Should I have ran Drive Image prior to the Windows restore CD?

Yes. The Windows restore CD is not necessary if the DriveImage image
file had superseded it. The Windows restore CD from Dell is just the
disk image of the factory version. The Drive Image image file contains
the version of Windows as the user had configured it, at the time the
image was made.

You could have figured that out by the answer given by Mistoffolees,
when he wrote that the Dell technician was just doing his/her job.

2. If I run Drive Image on a just formatted hard disk, and try to
restore the system from the image on the external hard disk, how can the
computer see the external disk if Windows was not
installed?


The Windows operating system is not needed to restore from an external
source. The Windows operating system, in fact, may hinder just such a
recovery, in order to protect itself from having working system files
over-written. Mistoffolees, again, gave the answer. Most self-booting
disk cloning or recovery programs have all the commands built-in for
partitioning, sizing, formatting and the sector-by-sector extraction
of the image file and copying to the hard drive, just as they do for
building the sector-by-sector imaging of the hard drive to a file.

DriveImage is somewhat dated. It boots into a runtime version of DR DOS
and, more recently, into its descendent version (? Culebra). If the
computer cannot natively identify the external drive (because it or its
bios is too ancient), then one must also re-write the autoexec.bat and
config.sys file, and add the system drivers to the boot disc. Nor, IIRC,
can DriveImage 7.0 restore from USB. (External SCSI, yes; internal HD,
yes.) Current versions of Ghost and True Image, among others, are OK
(and this is cominh from a Drive Image user when it was programmed by
PowerQuest.)

Dated, a perspective. Continues to work well here.
DI 7.0 restore/ installation CD runs on windows PE. DI 6.0/2002 runs on
the DR DOS. DI 7.0 can restore from both USB and Firewire connected hard
drives. There is no autoexec or config.sys to re-write (DI 6.0/2002,
yes). All is hard written (read-only) to the DI 7.0 bootable CD. It has
an F6 option, like a windows installation, to inject a hardware driver if
needed during booting.

Long time user of DI 7.0
--
Dave

Apathy and denial are close cousins


Addendum. DI 6.0 restore only works in IBM DR DOS, IF, you attempt to image
the boot drive. That won't happen here as can only be invoked from the Win
95/98/98SE/ME environment while in DI 6.0. It writes a temporary boot
floppy image where the PC subsequently boots from.

DI 6.0 creates two physical boot diskettes in windows for booting otherwise.
The operating system is the base msdos for the version of windows used in
that environment.
--
Dave

Apathy and denial are close cousins


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