Re: How to make a new partition?

Gerry Cornell wrote:

Having two drives rather than one is in effect partitioning.


Although there are similarities, I don't really agree with that statement.
But I'll let it go for now, since it's essentially a side issue.


Partitioning whether sub-dividing drives or by having more than one
drive has organisational benefits and can simplify taking backups and
routine maintenance.


Gerry, I wasn't arguing against having more than one partition, I was
explaining why my view of what its benefits are is different from Shenan's.

I don't want to go into all the reasons why one might have multiple
partitions or not, but my general view is that most people's partitioning
scheme should be based on their backup scheme. If, for example, you backup
by creating a clone or image on the entire drive, then a single partition
might be best. If, on the other hand, you backup only your data, then the
backup process is facilitated by having all data in a separate partition.

That's why I said, quoted below, "My second point was that I felt that the
main good reason for separating operating system and data had nothing to do
with facilitating reinstallation, but was to facilitate your backup scheme,
if that scheme was a data-only backup, rather than a complete image of the
drive."

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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Compare the advantage of separate partitions
holding your Outlook Express current identity, with an archive
identity, with a dedicated operating system / programme partition
with putting all on a single drive. Mixing files which fragment
rapidly with ones that do not makes routine maintenance take much
longer. Providing the user has a third party partitioning tool where
are the disadvantages?

I am now lighting the blue touch paper and running like a bat out of
hell<g>!


"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Ozpuc2JHHHA.3668@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Shenan Stanley wrote:

Chuck Davis wrote:
For the life of me, I don't know the perceived advantages of
partioning the drive. I've read a lot of "reasons," but none made
it throught my thick skull. In those computers that arrive from
the manufacturer with the OS in a partition, I have found that
that partition will eventually be too small and cause problems.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
The *only* technical advantage that is hard to argue with is if you
want to store your DATA - nothing else - on the second partition.
The advantage? If you *have* to reinstall the OS and you know what
you are doing - at least your data stays intact - given the reason
for the whole mess is non-hardware related and whatever software
issue that caused your reinstall did not include deleting files
from other drives. *grin*
As far as non-technical reasoning...

Organization. For some people it is simpler to think that all
their applications are installed on D. Their operating system is
C. Their picture files are E. Their word documents are F. Etc...
Perception only - but that goes a long way with human beings -
after all - most things are perception only when you get down to
it. Personally - I make one large partition and install the OS and all
applications.

I buy additional drive(s) and install them as needed - usually in a
RAID fashion.
<last example snipped>

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
Sorry to disagree, but I'll throw in a contrary opinion here, if I
may:
I don't think that's a good reason for separating data on a
separate partition at all. To me, if your data is important to
you, it always needs to be backed up, and if it is backed up and
you ever have to reinstall the operating system, you simply
restore the data from the backup, even if it's not on a separate
partition. In fact, I think that many people who do as you suggest
get a false sense of security from it and have that kind of
separation *instead* of a backup, thinking that it takes away the
need for a backup. In fact, that's not at all true of course,
since things like a hard drive crash (and other events) can easily
destroy everything. To me the best reason for keeping your data on a
partition separate
from the operating system system is to facilitate data backup. If
you back up only data, rather than image the entire drive, with
most backup programs, it's easier to do it if the data is on a
separate partition.

I am unsure where we disagreed. You expanded on the only technical
reason I could come up with for partitioning - you did not disagree
with it per se. I never mentioned backup here - but it was not
because I felt it should not be a matter of concern; perhaps I left
too much to assumption there


Well, perhaps I misinterpreted your message, but as I read it, your
main reason for separating operating system and data was to
facilitate reinstallation if necessary. My first point was that the
need for backup is paramount and if a good backup scheme is in
place, a separate partition isn't needed to facilitate
reinstallation. My second point was that I felt that the main good reason
for
separating operating system and data had nothing to do with
facilitating reinstallation, but was to facilitate your backup
scheme, if that scheme was a data-only backup, rather than a
complete image of the drive.

I'm not sure that I've said anything different from what I did
previously, but perhaps the above will clarify where I thought we
differed.


Matter of fact the very reason I added
the last part of the last sentence:
"... given the reason for the whole mess is non-hardware related and
whatever software issue that caused your reinstall did not include
deleting files from other drives. *grin* ..." implies that said
method is *not* foolproof nor should be relied upon.

While I appreciate the additional information you have added (which
may prevent misunderstanding in the future on said topic) - I do not
see as we had any disagreement here. You just took my explanation
to the next level - backing up data - which should always be in
place, partitioning or not.


If I was wrong, and we actually agree, then great, I'm glad to hear
it, and I apologize for suggesting the contrary.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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