Re: Which version of DOS is with XP Pro?

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"Squire" <jerrym526@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> And just remember,
> All your storage of files are installed on a disk.
> Hence - Disk Operating System, Disk Storage System, whatever.
>
> Jerry
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> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> And MS-DOS stands for MicroSoft Disk Operating System.
>>
>> NT stands for New Technology and XP stands for eXPerience.
>>
>> Windows XP is NT 5.1 and NT does not have MS-DOS.
>>
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>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In news:%23DqcJ97xFHA.3236@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
>> Squire <jerrym526@xxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
>>> Just to bring you up to date,
>>>
>>> The copy command in Partition Magic, will copy the full operating system
>>> to an unallocated space that is fully bootable.
>>> And remember what DOS originally stands for:
>>> Disk Operating System.
>>> Which originally consisted of files installed into a directory named
>>> DOS.
>>>
>>> Keep Smiling :-)
>>> Jerry
>>>
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>>> "Malke" <notreally@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> Squire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The last version of pure DOS was 7.01
>>>>> This is no longer in use by Windows XP.
>>>>> All of the original Dos files have been absorbed into XP and almost
>>>>> all can still be used at the CMD.exe prompt.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need a 3rd party partition manager to make bootable copies of your
>>>>> operating system, such as Partition Magic or BootIt NG,
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Luck,
>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, but that information is incorrect. There is no DOS
>>>> whatsoever
>>>> in any NT-based operating system. The command prompt in XP (which is NT
>>>> 5.1) is just that, a command prompt. It is not DOS, which is an
>>>> operating system. I don't know about books that cover XP's command
>>>> line, but here is XP's Command line reference, A-Z:
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/ntcmds.mspx
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure why you thought the OP needed a partition manager, but in
>>>> order to make an image of his drive he would need imaging software.
>>>> Partition Magic does not include imaging software - Ghost is the
>>>> Symantec imaging program. BootIT NG does have an imaging component.
>>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>
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>


So how do you define an operating system that is loaded from flash memory,
like a USB thumb drive? Obviously it is NOT a *disk* operating system.
Since "disk" implicitly refers to a fixed disk (aka hard drive), explain how
an OS loaded using CD-ROM disc qualifies as a DOS. Stop showing off your
stupidity in trying to lump all of Microsoft's operating systems under a
moniker of DISK Operating System, because those who actually use their
computer know "DOS" means MS/IBM DOS of yesteryear. Based on your
definition, Linux, Windows, MS/IBM-DOS, Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, MVS, VSE, OS X,
and every other operating system are all DOS since they typically load their
code into memory from some mass storage subsystem.

The command prompt where you enter commands is a command-line interpreter
program. Any operating system that provides a text-mode console terminal
window must provide one so it can determine the command you enter and what
the command-line interpreter will execute against the system API. Even
under old MS/IBM-DOS, you could use the included command-line interpreter
(command.com) or some 3rd party command-line interpreter. That program
itself is *not* DOS. It is just the user interface program provided so you
can see your input and have that particular program execute its code. Even
if the command weren't internal to that particular command-line interpreter
program, it still had to interpret your input to then locate the external
program to load it into memory (nothing runs unless in memory) and than pass
control to it.

Yes, Windows XP also has a command-line interpreter that you can use inside
a text-mode console window. Actually it has two of them: cmd.exe for the NT
version and command.com for backwards compatibility. However, there is *no*
DOS kernel provided under Windows NT/2000/XP. You are just entering input
to the particular command-line interpreter *program* that the OS provides.

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