Re: Hard drive

That sounds good to me!
I went to Acronis web site.
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/
Noticed 2 software products ... Acronis True Image 8.0
and Acrinos Migrate Easy 7.0 (new)
Which one or both would I need?

--
Thanks,
ponderxpo


"peterk" wrote:

> If you get a new 2nd HD you will need to go to control panel/administrative
> tools/computer management/disk management and format the drive in order for
> it to show up in Explorer.The System knows the drive I clone to is there but
> it will not get any errors when the drive is removed...it just does not show
> up in Explorer.
> Any secondary HD can be removed without errors from the operating
> system...unless you try to run a program from that missing drive......
> The drive the OS is on is a different matter........system wont boot if it
> is removed under normal conditions.
> peterk
>
> --
> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:A0BE0ED3-169A-445D-B12C-FFC2F7A344C9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Ok ... I like the Idea about removable cages.
> > You mentioned that your system doesn't know your clone drive exists so it
> > wont be missed when its out. But when I get a new 2nd Hard drive Ill have
> > to
> > format it or something. In doing this I wonder if my system will config
> > this
> > in some way& expect this drive to always be there?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ponderxpo
> >
> >
> > "peterk" wrote:
> >
> >> The drive that I clone to I temporarily install it inside the computer on
> >> the 2nd EIDE cable as master.
> >> When the cloning is finished I remove it.I install and remove after I
> >> shut
> >> the computer down ..power off.
> >> I use the same size HD but it does not have to be....I just got a better
> >> deal when I bought 2 of the same.
> >> The cloned drive will not be missed.....it was not there to begin with.It
> >> will be recognized when its hooked up
> >> One day I will buy me one of those removable cages that hooks into your
> >> computer that holds a HD..that you can remove.
> >> I would recomend cloning your one and only HD to another.There is no
> >> sense
> >> in backing up to the same drive because if it fails you will not be able
> >> to
> >> access those backups.You could try backing the partition up to a DVD-RW I
> >> have done that with one of my smaller partitions and it worked.One has to
> >> start somewhere and for you it might be the purchase of 2 more HDs plus
> >> TrueImage.One HD for cloning and another to use for backups.My 120gig HD
> >> is
> >> partitioned into 4 my other 120gig HD into 2.
> >> Each partition holds specific things....One just for XP,another for
> >> programs,another for games,another for video work..etc etc
> >> On the 2nd 120gig I have the secure zone for individual partition
> >> backups..plus some other saved stuff
> >> If I screw up one partition I just have to open TrueImage and restore
> >> that
> >> partition...not the whole drive.If I screw up or XP screws itself up and
> >> I
> >> cannot start the system out comes the cloned drive hook it up inplace of
> >> the
> >> C drive and I am back in business.
> >> hope this helps
> >> peterk
> >>
> >> --
> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:D0FC7B55-AC76-4DE1-AAD9-4719755555D6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Peterk ... The clone drive - was that a ' simple removable drive
> >> > slide-pull
> >> > out drive' or you had to open pc unit & disassemble the unit ?
> >> >
> >> > I Only have one Partition (thats enough problems for me).
> >> > Would you recomend on the clone for backing up my one & only partition
> >> > "C".......to a secure zone that Acronis TrueImage creates?
> >> >
> >> > For normal files I am backing up w/ Nero to DVD-R.
> >> >
> >> > On help support Info I have read a lil on MSFT: system recovery,
> >> > restores
> >> > to same or alt area, dir, vol, agents, passwords, safe zones,advanced,
> >> > experience, ... etc . Im not touching that stuff!
> >> >
> >> > Yes I will be thinking about a 2nd (clone) drive.
> >> > Do you recomend Both HD drives have same size gig capacity?
> >> > By the way do you have to let your system know the clone device is out
> >> > resting for two weeks?
> >> >
> >> > Hopefully out of the volcano ........ Thanks and thanks to all
> >> > especially
> >> > the ones who were shaking there heads.
> >> >
> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "peterk" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Ponder
> >> >> I use 2 hard drives plus one for cloning the boot drive.Once I have
> >> >> cloned
> >> >> the boot drive where XP resides using Acronis TrueImage I remove this
> >> >> drive
> >> >> and keep it in a safe place.If or when I have a major problem and XP
> >> >> will
> >> >> not boot I remove that HD and install the cloned drive in its
> >> >> place..........it boots without problems.I update that image about
> >> >> every
> >> >> 2
> >> >> weeks.
> >> >> I also use trueimage for backing up partitions.......to a secure zone
> >> >> that
> >> >> Acronis TrueImage creates.
> >> >> For normal work files type backups I just use the XP backup program
> >> >> backing
> >> >> up to a formatted DVD-RW....using INCD from Nero to format the disc
> >> >> first.....this also works with CD-RW.
> >> >> You of course need to find what works for you................
> >> >> peterk
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:985149D2-990A-4B54-91E0-BBABAB678CCF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > Thank you all ... I have come to the end of my ummm backup-end of
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > full
> >> >> > trail.
> >> >> > Reboot/Recovery/Restore/Reimage/Reclone ..... and Redone!
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Ponder
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I don't remember suggesting an external hard drive, but I did
> >> >> >> suggest
> >> >> >> Acronis.. reports on it are good, but I never use anything like
> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> personally, preferring to do a fresh install in the event of
> >> >> >> serious
> >> >> >> problems..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> With Windows Backup, it is possible to do create a backup of
> >> >> >> important
> >> >> >> stuff
> >> >> >> to the hard drive and then use Nero or other CD writing software to
> >> >> >> transfer
> >> >> >> it to CD/DVD.. to be honest, it is quicker just to save stuff to CD
> >> >> >> using
> >> >> >> Nero and forget about Windows Backup.. this program has its uses,
> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> times past, backups made by a previous version of Windows have
> >> >> >> tended
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> be usable by the next version, that is to say, W95 backups could
> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> utilised in W98..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The one important factor in any backup is that it has to be updated
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> reflect current running.. a system backed up just after the initial
> >> >> >> install
> >> >> >> would still require that all programs installed initially would
> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> re-installed.. doing backups at any point thereafter could well
> >> >> >> carry
> >> >> >> hidden
> >> >> >> problems forward.. that is why I always clean install..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I utilise two hard drives, saving all important documents and
> >> >> >> personal
> >> >> >> stuff
> >> >> >> to the slave drive.. of course, a hard drive can fail at any time,
> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> slave
> >> >> >> drives do not get the daily workout that a primary boot drive
> >> >> >> gets..
> >> >> >> archived material, documents or groups of whatever that are not
> >> >> >> likely
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> change, for example a once in a lifetime trip to Australia, get
> >> >> >> saved
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> CD
> >> >> >> and left on the drive for easy access..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I will readily admit that my way takes longer, but it is amazing
> >> >> >> how
> >> >> >> much
> >> >> >> one installs a second time compared to the flotsam and jetsam
> >> >> >> picked
> >> >> >> up
> >> >> >> initially..
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Mike Hall
> >> >> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:892AE233-DD9B-42BD-89C7-5687F6D010C9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> > Peterk ... I concur about aAonis and will consider a hard
> >> >> >> > external
> >> >> >> > hard
> >> >> >> > drive
> >> >> >> > that Mike Hall (MS-MVP) mentioned ... WD duel option or Master 1
> >> >> >> > touch
> >> >> >> > II
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > In between the clutter I listen to you guys.
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "peterk" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Your welcome
> >> >> >> >> TrueImage is a good investment to make..............it has saved
> >> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> >> bacon
> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> few times.
> >> >> >> >> With the low price of HD nowadays it is fairly reasonable cost
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> purchase
> >> >> >> >> one and using TrueImage image your HD to the new one and then
> >> >> >> >> remove
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> >> one and keep in a safe place.Every once in awhile reconnect the
> >> >> >> >> new
> >> >> >> >> drive
> >> >> >> >> and reimage
> >> >> >> >> When(not IF) something goes wrong and you cant boot,you simply
> >> >> >> >> unplug
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> HD
> >> >> >> >> and install the imaged drive and your up and running in minutes.
> >> >> >> >> peterk
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve
> >> >> >> >> Wozniak
> >> >> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:BAF24058-7855-4096-8650-D2C93BD837E4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> > Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that
> >> >> >> >> > you
> >> >> >> >> > cant
> >> >> >> >> > Backup
> >> >> >> >> > full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to
> >> >> >> >> > reconfig
> >> >> >> >> > my
> >> >> >> >> > system
> >> >> >> >> > and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
> >> >> >> >> > Since Im a novice and gullable.
> >> >> >> >> > I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater
> >> >> >> >> > diverse
> >> >> >> >> > help.
> >> >> >> >> > Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
> >> >> >> >> > Thanks for your info.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >> >> > ponderxpo
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > "peterk" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD
> >> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> >> drive bootable.
> >> >> >> >> >> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain
> >> >> >> >> >> sections
> >> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> >> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or
> >> >> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> >> >> create
> >> >> >> >> >> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These
> >> >> >> >> >> files
> >> >> >> >> >> will
> >> >> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> >> >> in an image format.
> >> >> >> >> >> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not
> >> >> >> >> >> need
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