Re: Hard drive

The drive that I clone to I temporarily install it inside the computer on
the 2nd EIDE cable as master.
When the cloning is finished I remove it.I install and remove after I shut
the computer down ..power off.
I use the same size HD but it does not have to be....I just got a better
deal when I bought 2 of the same.
The cloned drive will not be missed.....it was not there to begin with.It
will be recognized when its hooked up
One day I will buy me one of those removable cages that hooks into your
computer that holds a HD..that you can remove.
I would recomend cloning your one and only HD to another.There is no sense
in backing up to the same drive because if it fails you will not be able to
access those backups.You could try backing the partition up to a DVD-RW I
have done that with one of my smaller partitions and it worked.One has to
start somewhere and for you it might be the purchase of 2 more HDs plus
TrueImage.One HD for cloning and another to use for backups.My 120gig HD is
partitioned into 4 my other 120gig HD into 2.
Each partition holds specific things....One just for XP,another for
programs,another for games,another for video work..etc etc
On the 2nd 120gig I have the secure zone for individual partition
backups..plus some other saved stuff
If I screw up one partition I just have to open TrueImage and restore that
partition...not the whole drive.If I screw up or XP screws itself up and I
cannot start the system out comes the cloned drive hook it up inplace of the
C drive and I am back in business.
hope this helps
peterk

--
Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
"ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:D0FC7B55-AC76-4DE1-AAD9-4719755555D6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Peterk ... The clone drive - was that a ' simple removable drive
> slide-pull
> out drive' or you had to open pc unit & disassemble the unit ?
>
> I Only have one Partition (thats enough problems for me).
> Would you recomend on the clone for backing up my one & only partition
> "C".......to a secure zone that Acronis TrueImage creates?
>
> For normal files I am backing up w/ Nero to DVD-R.
>
> On help support Info I have read a lil on MSFT: system recovery,
> restores
> to same or alt area, dir, vol, agents, passwords, safe zones,advanced,
> experience, ... etc . Im not touching that stuff!
>
> Yes I will be thinking about a 2nd (clone) drive.
> Do you recomend Both HD drives have same size gig capacity?
> By the way do you have to let your system know the clone device is out
> resting for two weeks?
>
> Hopefully out of the volcano ........ Thanks and thanks to all especially
> the ones who were shaking there heads.
>
> ponderxpo
>
>
> "peterk" wrote:
>
>> Ponder
>> I use 2 hard drives plus one for cloning the boot drive.Once I have
>> cloned
>> the boot drive where XP resides using Acronis TrueImage I remove this
>> drive
>> and keep it in a safe place.If or when I have a major problem and XP will
>> not boot I remove that HD and install the cloned drive in its
>> place..........it boots without problems.I update that image about every
>> 2
>> weeks.
>> I also use trueimage for backing up partitions.......to a secure zone
>> that
>> Acronis TrueImage creates.
>> For normal work files type backups I just use the XP backup program
>> backing
>> up to a formatted DVD-RW....using INCD from Nero to format the disc
>> first.....this also works with CD-RW.
>> You of course need to find what works for you................
>> peterk
>>
>> --
>> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve Wozniak
>> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:985149D2-990A-4B54-91E0-BBABAB678CCF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Thank you all ... I have come to the end of my ummm backup-end of the
>> > full
>> > trail.
>> > Reboot/Recovery/Restore/Reimage/Reclone ..... and Redone!
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> > ponderxpo
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ponder
>> >>
>> >> I don't remember suggesting an external hard drive, but I did suggest
>> >> Acronis.. reports on it are good, but I never use anything like that
>> >> personally, preferring to do a fresh install in the event of serious
>> >> problems..
>> >>
>> >> With Windows Backup, it is possible to do create a backup of important
>> >> stuff
>> >> to the hard drive and then use Nero or other CD writing software to
>> >> transfer
>> >> it to CD/DVD.. to be honest, it is quicker just to save stuff to CD
>> >> using
>> >> Nero and forget about Windows Backup.. this program has its uses, but
>> >> in
>> >> times past, backups made by a previous version of Windows have tended
>> >> not
>> >> to
>> >> be usable by the next version, that is to say, W95 backups could not
>> >> be
>> >> utilised in W98..
>> >>
>> >> The one important factor in any backup is that it has to be updated to
>> >> reflect current running.. a system backed up just after the initial
>> >> install
>> >> would still require that all programs installed initially would have
>> >> to
>> >> be
>> >> re-installed.. doing backups at any point thereafter could well carry
>> >> hidden
>> >> problems forward.. that is why I always clean install..
>> >>
>> >> I utilise two hard drives, saving all important documents and personal
>> >> stuff
>> >> to the slave drive.. of course, a hard drive can fail at any time, but
>> >> slave
>> >> drives do not get the daily workout that a primary boot drive gets..
>> >> archived material, documents or groups of whatever that are not likely
>> >> to
>> >> change, for example a once in a lifetime trip to Australia, get saved
>> >> to
>> >> CD
>> >> and left on the drive for easy access..
>> >>
>> >> I will readily admit that my way takes longer, but it is amazing how
>> >> much
>> >> one installs a second time compared to the flotsam and jetsam picked
>> >> up
>> >> initially..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Mike Hall
>> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:892AE233-DD9B-42BD-89C7-5687F6D010C9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Peterk ... I concur about aAonis and will consider a hard external
>> >> > hard
>> >> > drive
>> >> > that Mike Hall (MS-MVP) mentioned ... WD duel option or Master 1
>> >> > touch
>> >> > II
>> >> >
>> >> > In between the clutter I listen to you guys.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "peterk" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Your welcome
>> >> >> TrueImage is a good investment to make..............it has saved my
>> >> >> bacon
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> few times.
>> >> >> With the low price of HD nowadays it is fairly reasonable cost to
>> >> >> purchase
>> >> >> one and using TrueImage image your HD to the new one and then
>> >> >> remove
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> new
>> >> >> one and keep in a safe place.Every once in awhile reconnect the new
>> >> >> drive
>> >> >> and reimage
>> >> >> When(not IF) something goes wrong and you cant boot,you simply
>> >> >> unplug
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> HD
>> >> >> and install the imaged drive and your up and running in minutes.
>> >> >> peterk
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve
>> >> >> Wozniak
>> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:BAF24058-7855-4096-8650-D2C93BD837E4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> > Petro ... Yes I have Nero full version but I found out that you
>> >> >> > cant
>> >> >> > Backup
>> >> >> > full Hard drive to DVD according to Nero Support I had to
>> >> >> > reconfig
>> >> >> > my
>> >> >> > system
>> >> >> > and get a new DVD... The nerve huh?
>> >> >> > Since Im a novice and gullable.
>> >> >> > I thought going to different newsgroups might offer greater
>> >> >> > diverse
>> >> >> > help.
>> >> >> > Well I now know so ill try to not to bounce all over.
>> >> >> > Thanks for your info.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "peterk" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> TrueImage will backup or Image your whole HD to another HD and
>> >> >> >> make
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> drive bootable.
>> >> >> >> It will also allow you to make incremental backups of certain
>> >> >> >> sections
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> your HD and place that into any directory that you create or it
>> >> >> >> will
>> >> >> >> create
>> >> >> >> a special partition which will not show up in Explorer.These
>> >> >> >> files
>> >> >> >> will
>> >> >> >> be
>> >> >> >> in an image format.
>> >> >> >> It also lets you activate a Recovery Manager that does not need
>> >> >> >> XP
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> run
>> >> >> >> from where you can "restore" that image.
>> >> >> >> Images can be burned to a DVD-R/RW disc
>> >> >> >> INCD is a program that is usually included in NERO ver
>> >> >> >> 6...........which
>> >> >> >> you
>> >> >> >> say you already have..........check!!
>> >> >> >> You have posted in every newsgroup here............it is best to
>> >> >> >> stick
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> one and add to it as people who do help will check back but not
>> >> >> >> many
>> >> >> >> will
>> >> >> >> bother with the same type of questions in 6 diffferent
>> >> >> >> newsgroups.
>> >> >> >> peterk
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Never trust a computer you can't throw out the window. - Steve
>> >> >> >> Wozniak
>> >> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:E6806D2E-C443-4278-A2E4-37E63E407D53@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> >I think Acronis mentions about backing up in a "INCD" thing ...
>> >> >> >> > What is INCD? Do I have to reconvifure something to "INCD"
>> >> >> >> > mode?
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Windows Backup is not suitable for full system backups.. use
>> >> >> >> >> something
>> >> >> >> >> like
>> >> >> >> >> Acronis TrueImage
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.acronis.com/
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> Mike Hall
>> >> >> >> >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "ponderxpo" <ponderxpo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> news:88B5D481-A625-49F3-9135-A4B87E9375BE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >> >> > Because MSFT dose not allow not full hard drive B/u on
>> >> >> >> >> > cd/dvd
>> >> >> >> >> > Can full hard drive be offloaded to say external USB Hard
>> >> >> >> >> > drive
>> >> >> >> >> > or
>> >> >> >> >> > Tape
>> >> >> >> >> > device
>> >> >> >> >> > for reboot disaster revovery?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> >> >> > ponderxpo
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
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