Re: No start after re-install.
From: Ken Blake (kblake_at_this.is.an.invalid.domain)
Date: 01/19/05
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:04:32 -0700
In news:OdumC%23b$EHA.3124@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl,
Ted Zieglar <teddyz@notmail.com> typed:
> "No, you can *not* do this. A number of years ago, it was
> possible to
> low-level format drives yourself, but on today's modern drives
> it's
> strictly a factory procedure. Any attempt to do this yourself
> would
> result in ruining the drive."
>
> Boy, some of us woke up in a bad mood today!
Sorry if I sounded overly agressive. It wasn't my intent--I was
just trying to clarify the situation.
> "How Do I Low Level Format an ATA (IDE) Hard Drive?"
> http://www.seagate.com/support/kb/disc/faq/ata_llfmt_what.html
This says almost exactly the same thing I did. It says "Actually
the term "low level" is a bit of a misnomer. The low level
process first used years ago in MFM hard drives bears little
resemblance to what we now call a "low level format" for today's
ATA (IDE) drives. The only safe method of initializing all the
data on a Seagate device is the Zero Fill option in DiscWizard
Starter Edition."
The point is that what you were calling formatting is not
formatting, and not even low-level formatting. It's zero-filling.
-- Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User Please reply to the newsgroup > "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message > news:OvO1xra$EHA.2584@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> In news:OzqIiMV$EHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl, >> Ted Zieglar <teddyz@notmail.com> typed: >> >>>I buy my hard drives in stores. They are already low level >>>formatted, >> >> >> Yes, but you're using these terms in an unusual highly >> personal way. >> The term "formatted," used by itself, never refers to >> low-level >> formatting. >> >>> and as such do not need to be reformatted before installing >>> XP. >> >> >> All drives need to be partitioned and then each partition >> needs to be >> formatted (remember that plain "formatting" does not refer to >> low-level formatting) before use. What's apparently confusing >> you >> here is that a normal Windows XP clean installation both >> partitions >> and formats as part of that installation. In contrast, in >> MS-DOS and >> Windows 9X, you did these as separate steps before starting >> the >> operating system installation. And even with Windows XP, you >> still >> can do them as separate steps, and sometimes you *have* to do >> it >> that way; for example if you want to have a FAT32 partition >> larger >> than 32GB, Windows XP won't create it and your only choice is >> to >> first manually partition that way and then format it. >> >>> If I >>> was to purchase a second hand drive - something I personally >>> do not >>> do - I would perform a low level format before installing the >>> OS. >> >> >> No, you can *not* do this. A number of years ago, it was >> possible to >> low-level format drives yourself, but on today's modern drives >> it's >> strictly a factory procedure. Any attempt to do this yourself >> would >> result in ruining the drive. >> >> What you *can* do yourself is zero-fill the tracks of the >> drive. >> Unfortunately some people refer to this as low-level >> formatting, but >> it is not that at all. >> >> Returning to the subject of formatting (not low-level >> formatting) >> it's actually partitions, not drives, that have to be >> formatted; >> each partition that's created on the drive has to be formatted >> separately. Neither partitioning nor formatting is normally >> done >> before you buy the drive because the manufacturer doesn't know >> what >> operating system you're going to use it with, how many >> partitions >> you want, what size they should be, nor what file system they >> should >> use. >> -- >> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User >> Please reply to the newsgroup >> >> >> >>> I didn't say that a new drive does not need to be >>> partitioned. >>> >>> Ted Zieglar >>> >>> "Jeff Gaines" <whitedragon@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message >>> news:xn0dxed4g32z4n002@news.microsoft.com... >>>> On 18/01/2005 Ted Zieglar wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm sure exactly what you're saying, because a new hard >>>>> drive >>>>> doesn't need to be formatted - it already is formatted. >>>> >>>> >>>> That's very misleading, where do you buy your new drives? >>>> >>>> I have never bought a HD that didn't need both partitioning >>>> and >>>> formatting before use. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jeff Gaines >>>> Posted with XanaNews 1.17.1.2
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