Re: Not "burning" to Cd after SP2 upgrade

From: Harry Ohrn (harry---_at_webtree.ca)
Date: 12/01/04 

Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:21:56 -0600

Thanks for the update. I appreciate your effort. 

-- 
Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
""old" devildog" <teyoungATcableNOSPAMone.net> wrote in message
news:e2gUGE81EHA.1860@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| This thread is getting long but bear with me. Please feel free to <<snip>>
| anything below this responce if you find it is necessary to reply.
|
| 1. Find the files by using something besides the built in Windows Explorer
| search, it misses the sys files and the ex_, sy_ files.  I use PowerDesk,
it
| is a much better search engine. Your files maybe in different locations
due
| to the OEM "Branding" of your pre-installed of XP.
|
| 2. Search using the following text:   imapi*.*
|
| 3. Then copy the following files from the hard drive of the non-SP2
| computer:
|     (file locations are from both the eMachine and HP computers)
|
| imapi.sys      @    C:\ windows\system32\dllcache\
| imapi.sys      @    C:\ windows\system32\drivers\
| imapi.exe      @    C:\windows\system32\
| imapi.exe      @    C:\windows\system32\dllcache\
| imapi.exe      @     C:\windows\ServicePackFiles\i386\
| Imapi.ex_     @    C:\ windows\I386
| Imapi.sy_      @     C:\windows\I386
|
| < Note the last two files are are with "I" not "i" and are "ex_" and
"sy_".
| It is important to copy them also.>
|
| 4. Search your SP2 updated hard drive and locate the same files and check
to
| see if they are in the same locations.
|
| 5. Then remove the same files from the same locations from your "SP2
| updated" hard drive.
|
| 6. Copy the files to your hard drive into the same locations, then boot
your
| computer.
|
| It worked with my computer and a new "out of the box" pre-SP2 HP computer.
|
| All this does it to revert the exe and sys files back to the XP SP1a
| version, which worked without any problems on my machine before the SP2
| upgrade. The ex_ and sy_ files are necessary in case you run System File
| Checker. These are the protected files. If you do not replace these files
| you will just have the SP2 versions placed back on the hard drive the next
| time you use SFC.
|
| If you have not upgrade to SP2 and are getting ready to upgrade to SP2,
copy
| the files above and then replace them after your SP2 upgrade.
|
| Uninstalling SP2 doesn't work, the file size's of these files do not
change!
| They are not reverted back to SP1a on my computer.  If you do not have
| access to a pre-SP2 XP OS then you will have to do a clean install of XP
to
| get back to original files. Then copy them to a CD-R. Next upgrade to SP2
| then replace the files listed above. I don't know if the files from a
| previous version of XP (before SP1a) works the same way (they should by
| logic as the CDRW's worked then). I didn't have these files at my disposal
| to use while troubleshooting this problem.
|
| --------Update---------
|
| I was also told last night by a friend from Iowa, he fixed the problem by
| installing this exe file from Roxio ---  udfread_v5.1.1.213-inst.exe. It
has
| been available since 11/25/04. It worked for him. He found the file while
| using Google to research the CDRW problem he was also having and find a
fix
| to the problem.  I have not used this fix. But he sent me the exe file to
| try out and see if it is a valid fix to the problem I was having. Today I
| plan to uninstall SP2 and then reinstall SP2 (this will overwrite the
imapi
| files I replaced) and check to see if the "burning" problem present again.
| If it is, then I will install the udfread file from Roxio to check out his
| fix.  Since this file is only about 540k it is easy to e-mail as an
| attachment.  I will let you know the out come.
|
| "old" devildog
|   Simper Fi
| -----------------------------------------------
|
| "Harry Ohrn" <harry---@webtree.ca> wrote in message
| news:u5cF8861EHA.1124@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| | Are you saying you only replaced the imapi.exe file located in
| | C:\WINDOWS\system32 and imapi.sys located in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers
?
| |
| | It would be helpful if you posted the names and locations of the files
| | replaced.
| |
| | -- 
| |
| | Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
| | www.webtree.ca/windowsxp
| |
| |
| | ""old" devildog" <teyoungATcableNOSPAMone.net> wrote in message
| | news:ubJ9aBw1EHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
| | >I have found a "fix" to this problem brought on by the SP2 upgrade.
| | > Understand I got many e-mails from Microsoft Support, and one e-mail
| from
| | > support even stated the only "fix" at this time, to the problem of
| | > "burning"
| | > to CD was to uninstall SP2 from the computer, that the fault was in
the
| | > SP2
| | > upgrade.  Another e-mail goes as far as stating that Microsoft is
aware
| of
| | > many problems generated by the SP2 upgrade, and they will be
addressing
| | > these problems "in the future in the form of upgrades or "hotfixes"".
| I
| | > followed Microsoft's advice to do a firmware flash of my CDRW drive.
| Bad
| | > news.  A new CDRW was damaged beyond repair by this firmware flash.  I
| was
| | > also told this new CDRW did not meet SP2 specs.  Samsung and Microsoft
| (on
| | > their own web pages) show it as being compatible with all Microsoft
OS's
| | > from 98se on.  After growing tired of Microsoft's inability to address
| | > this
| | > problem, I used my 30+ years of computer experience to trouble shoot
the
| | > problem myself.  As follows is the way I fixed the problem. The
| following
| | > is
| | > a copy of the final e-mail I sent to Microsoft Windows Support this
| | > morning.
| | > The "fix" works as stated on an 6 month old eMachine computer and new
| "out
| | > of the box" HP computer. This does not include the same problem some
of
| | > you
| | > are having with DVDRW drives, as I do not have this type of drive and
| have
| | > not been able to test it on them. Use it at your own risk with a DVDRW
| | > drive!   But waiting on Microsoft to to admit to the problem may take
| | > years,
| | > if at all.
| | >
| | > "old" devildog
| | >      Simper Fi
| | >
| |
|
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
| | >
| | > To: Jeffrey Tan
| | > Microsoft Windows Support Professional
| | >
| | >    I was able to find a fix for the problem of "burning" to a CD-R/RW
| | > drive
| | > after the upgrade to SP2, you and other support staff had been helping
| me
| | > with.
| | >
| | >    The damaged (from the firmware flash suggested by Microsoft) CDRW
was
| | > replaced with a 3 year old very well used Samsung CDRW drive ( drivers
| | > were
| | > also installed).  The inability to write to CD-R or CD-RW media was
| still
| | > present.  The properties of a new CD-R or CD-RW was still showing no
| free
| | > space.
| | >
| | >     I removed all of the files related to imapi (exe, dll & sys) from
my
| | > computer (noting the locations of all files removed).  I then copied
the
| | > same files to CD-R media from a brand new (out of the box) HP computer
| | > with
| | > XP Home Edition with SP1a service pack preinstalled.
| | >
| | >    I then installed the "old" imapi files (SP1a versions)  into the
same
| | > locations the SP2 version files were in. Rebooted my computer, and
| checked
| | > it.  The 3 year old CDRW drive now can burn to CD-R or CD-RW media
| without
| | > any problems.  Properties shows the new media as having free space, or
| in
| | > the case of the CDR with the imapi files, the space left on the drive.
| | > The
| | > damaged CDRW drive was reinstalled (along with it's drivers) in the
| | > computer
| | > and is unable to even play a music CD.  The "used" CDRW drive was
| | > reinstalled.  It still works normally, but as it is 3 years old, much
| | > slower.
| | >
| | >    The HP computer was then upgraded to SP2, using the upgrade CD
| provided
| | > by Microsoft.  When the HP computer was checked for ability to "burn a
| CDR
| | > or CDRW after the upgrade to SP2, it failed.  Properties showed no
free
| | > space even on new media. The same data CD-R was used to restore the
| imapi
| | > files from SP1a to it.  It now is able to "burn" to CD-R and CD-RW
| media,
| | > without removing the entire SP2 upgrade as suggested by you.
| | >
| | >    The problem has been found and the problem lies with the SP2
upgrade.
| | > My
| | > opinion is either "bad code" in the CD "burning" software of SP2  or
| | > intentional disabling (by Microsoft) of the CD "burning" software to
| | > appease
| | > the music industry, are the only logical answers.
| | >
| | >    I do not copy music CD's, in I fact never listen to them on my
| | > computer,
| | > as I have a very nice home system that sounds many times better.  All
I
| | > ever
| | > "burn" to CD is the photo's taken on my digital camera and data files
I
| | > back-up to protect my computer in case of OS or hardware failure. I am
| not
| | > "burning" copyrighted music or software.
| | >
| | >    My computer came with the eMachine OEM version of XP Home Edition
| SP1a
| | > preinstalled, and new HP computer came with the HP OEM version of XP
| Home
| | > Edition SP1a preinstalled.  Since reverting back to the SP1a versions
of
| | > all
| | > imapi files solved the problem on both the eMachine and HP computers,
I
| | > would suggest a "hotfix" from Microsoft with the same fix I have
| | > discovered.
| | > I will be opening up this "fix" to others who have had the same
problem.
| | > But as the "fix" I have discovered requires a pre-SP2 computer, and
most
| | > users of XP do not have this advantage.  Also a great deal of the XP
| users
| | > do not have the technical skills to perform this "fix" on their own.
| | >
| | >    Microsoft should make this "fix" available ASAP.  Waiting until the
| | > next
| | > "hotfix" cycle leaves many people in the cold. As Windows Xp was
| | > advertised
| | > as having the ability to "drag and drop" CD "burning",  loss of this
| | > ability
| | > by the SP2 upgrade, and the continuing adverting as being able to is a
| | > case
| | > the FTC needs to be made aware of.  I believe it is called false
| | > advertising.  I am still going to pursue the Small Claims case against
| | > Microsoft for the replacement of the CDRW drive damaged by following
the
| | > advice of Microsoft Windows Support Staff.
| | >
| | > <<snip>>
| | > (Deleted my name and e-mail address to stop the spam)
| | > "old" devildog
| | >     Simper Fi
| | >
| | >
| |
| |
|
|

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