Re: CHKDSK found errors

From: GTS (x)
Date: 10/05/04


Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 22:24:56 -0400

Jim,

  I'm in the middle of a very similar situation on a clients laptop and have
tried a lot of the same actions and then some. In addition to recovery
console, etc., I put the drive as a secondary in another machine where I ran
chkdsk against it with various options, with no success. It always ends up
with the same uncorrectable errors. I had also made an image backup (with
DI), reformatted, and restored the backup ending up with the same errors.
It makes sense that an image type backup might carry file system errors with
it.

   Here's what I plan to do next. I made a backup with system state to a
USB drive using ntbackup. I'm going to reformat again, reinstall Windows
(minimally), and then restore that backup. Since that kind of backup is
file based, rather than sector based like the imaging programs, I'm
thinking there's a good chance it may restore the system without recreating
the file system errors.

   It seems clear that there are some kinds of file system errors that
chkdsk just can't resolve. I don't know whether there are any third party
tools that would work in that situation. Am looking into that question too.

-- 
"Jim" <wdxp@cox.net> wrote in message 
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> Maurice;
>
> I just installed SP2, and am wondering if that could have something to
> do with it?  Please point me to where I can make the setup diskettes
> and will try running CHKDSK /f from the command prompt.
>
> I do have the Ibm recovery CD's (4), but am not sure if it would allow
> a stand-alone  XP Pro install, as IBM puts a hidden partition on the
> hard drive with their recovery software, which is exactly what I'm
> trying to get away from, as it takes up quite a bit of hard drive
> space.  I would be interested in any suggestions you can give as it
> would be a major undertaking to wipe the drive and start from scratch,
> but if CHKDSK doesn't work it looks like I'll have to go that route.
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:56:48 -0500, "Maurice N  ~ MVP"
> <maurice@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Jim wrote:
>>> I am running XP Pro on a Thinkpad, and tried to back up the drive as
>>> usual, and now the backup program will not complete, it backs up about
>>> 4/5 of the 60 gb drive then exits with an error message to the effect
>>> that "disk is already written or full", which it is not.
>>>
>>> Anyway, ran CHKDSK in the command prompt, and it found unspecified
>>> errors and recommended running with the /F option upon restart.  I did
>>> that, but it did not fix the errors.
>>>
>>> Is there any utility that I could run that would look at the drive and
>>> repair any errors in the NTFS file system?  I certainly would not want
>>> to have to start from scratch w/reformatting the drive.
>>>
>>> I suspect that Thinkpad has left some remanant of their proprietary
>>> recovery system on there and it may be causing problems, howver the
>>> system has successfully backed up many times before.
>>>
>>> Is there any utility that will do a low level format that would
>>> overwrite whatever IBM has put on there, no matter what protection it
>>> has put on the drive?  It's a Hitachi (IBM) 60 gb drive.
>>>
>>> If I did have to do a low level format, would a backup with the built
>>> in XP Backup save me from having to reinstall the operating system, as
>>> if I use the IBM supplied disks to restore everything it will install
>>> that protected "secret" partition which I want to eliminate as it uses
>>> up large amount of the drive space.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>>
>>> BTW, I'm using Acronis True Image to back up to an external firewire
>>> drive.
>>
>>Jim:
>>Determie the service pack level of this Win XP.  Is it Sp2, Sp1 / Sp1a, or 
>>(forbid) the original ?
>>Reason I ask, is I may be pointing you toward using setup-boot diskettes 
>>in order to run CHKDSK --- based on an assumption you have no XP CD.
>>Did IBM provide a Windows XP CD ?  If yes, the thing to do is to bootup & 
>>use Recovery Console & run CHKDSK.
>>
>>Insure your Acronis software is up-to-date & is XP-compatible.
>>Use Windows Explorer to see how much FREE space is on this HDD's volumes.
> 


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