Re: Networking XP & Home PC with Cross wire

Hi John,

Thanks for the prompt reply. I have a couple of precisions and questions.
See below in CAPITALS.

Below is also the details of the various configurations:

IPCONFIG –ALL ON XP HOME (COMPAQ)

Configuration IP de Windows
Nom de l'hôte . . . . . . . . . . : COMPAQ
Suffixe DNS principal . . . :
Type de nœud . . . . . . . . . . : Inconnu
Routage IP activé . . . . . .. . : Oui
Proxy WINS activé . . . . . . : Non

Carte Ethernet Connexion au réseau local:
Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Carte réseau Fast Ethernet PCI Realtek
RTL8139 Family
Adresse physique . . . . .. .: 00-10-DC-A3-8D-C9
DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . : Non
Adresse IP. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10
Masque de sous-réseau . . : 255.255.255.0
Passerelle par défaut . . . . . . :

Carte PPP Alcatel Speedtouch Connection :
Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion :
Description . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Adresse physique . . . . . . .: 00-53-45-00-00-00
DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . : Non
Adresse IP. . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.218.25.61
Masque de sous-réseau . . : 255.255.255.255
Passerelle par défaut . . . . : 195.218.25.61
Serveurs DNS . . . . . . . . . : 195.218.0.9 195.218.0.8

IPCONFIG –ALL ON XP PRO (COMPUTER01)

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : Computer01
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . : 00-16-76-40-0C-87
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.20
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::ffff:ffff:fffd%4
Default Gateway . . . . . . . :
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . : C0-A8-00-14
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . .. . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.0.20%2
Default Gateway . . . . . .. :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1 fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1
fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . .. : Disabled

NBTSTAT –A ON XP HOME FOR COMPAQ

Connexion au réseau local:
Adresse IP du noeudÿ: [192.168.0.10] ID d'‚tendueÿ: []
Table de noms NetBIOS des ordinateurs distants
Nom Type tat
----------------------------------- COMPAQ <00> UNIQUE
Inscrit
MSHOME <00> Groupe Inscrit
COMPAQ <20> UNIQUE Inscrit
MSHOME <1E> Groupe Inscrit
MSHOME <1D> UNIQUE Inscrit
...__MSBROWSE__.<01> Groupe Inscrit
Adresse MAC = 00-10-DC-A3-8D-C9

Alcatel Speedtouch Connection:
Adresse IP du noeudÿ: [195.218.25.61] ID d'‚tendueÿ: []

Table de noms NetBIOS des ordinateurs distants
Nom Type tat
-------------------------------------- COMPAQ <00> UNIQUE
Inscrit
MSHOME <00> Groupe Inscrit
COMPAQ <20> UNIQUE Inscrit
MSHOME <1E> Groupe Inscrit
Adresse MAC = 00-53-45-00-00-00

NBTSTAT –A ON XP PRO FOR COMPUTER01

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.0.20] Scope Id: []
NetBIOS Remote Machine Name Table
Name Type Status
-------------------------- COMPUTER01 <00> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <00> GROUP Registered
MSHOME <1E> GROUP Registered
MAC Address = 00-16-76-40-0C-87

NBTSTAT –A ON XP PRO FOR COMPAQ

Local Area Connection:
Node IpAddress: [192.168.0.20] Scope Id: []
NetBIOS Remote Machine Name Table
Name Type Status
----------------------------------- COMPAQ <00> UNIQUE
Registered
MSHOME <00> GROUP Registered
COMPAQ <20> UNIQUE Registered
MSHOME <1E> GROUP Registered
MSHOME <1D> UNIQUE Registered
...__MSBROWSE__.<01> GROUP Registered
MAC Address = 00-10-DC-A3-8D-C9


"John Wunderlich" wrote:

=?Utf-8?B?U3BlZWR5?= <Speedy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:F61FBD7C-F422-4F95-BDAA-AEC9D6144A29@xxxxxxxxxxxxx:

But here is where we stand. THe XP Pro machine can see all the
files shares set up onthe XP Home machine, but it does not see
itself on the network.

The XP Home machine probably became the master browser. When listing
shares, you see what the master browser sees. The master browser
doesn't see the Pro machine. Most likely because of a firewall issue.

The Home PC sees sometimes itself on the network and its shares
but not the XP Pro machine. Searches and then nothing.

Ping 192.168.0.10 (XP home machine) works
Ping 192.168.0.20 (XP Pro machine) works
Ping computer01 (XP PRO) works
Ping compaq (XP Home) works
from both sides/PC

Pings may work because it is ICMP protocol which is different than the
microsoft networking (NetBT / Net Bios over TCP/IP) protocol. You
would be much better served by using the NetBT equivalent of a ping:

nbtstat -a machinename
or
nbtstat -A machineIP

THIS WORKS. SEE DETAILS ABOVE. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS NEEDING EXPLANATIONS. WHO IS Master Browser?

User guest enabled on both machine same password. used net user
guest etc.

But can't get \\computer name\ shared files or \\IP address\shared
files to work?

Where are you typing "\\computerName\share" ? Is it in a Start->Run
window, an Explorer Address window or on a command line prompt?
Assuming you are doing it correctly, it will resolve the address with a
broadcast. Broadcasts will usually fail under two conditions
1) A firewall is blocking
2) Either/Both of the nodes is/are a P-Type (Peer-to-Peer) node.

I HAVE DONE THIS VIA START RUN CMD THEN COMMAND. IS THIS RIGHT? THIS DOES
NOT WORK THOUGH!

Check "ipconfig /all" on both machines to make sure you aren't a
P-node.

IPCONFIG INDICATES NODE HYBRID ON XP PRO AND NONE ON XP HOME PC. WHERE
WOULD ONE CHANGE THIS ANYHOW?

One issues is that the XP Home PC is a french windows and XP Pro
is english version windows. To overcome this? created a Guest
account rather than Invité (French equivalent) to ensure both
have exactely the same name / password.

Force a specific user connection by using the following syntax:
net use * \\computername\sharename /user:computername\username

Do not fully follow how windows uses this guest in its access
betweent the PC though and what the impact is when normal logon is
to an other user ID?

XP Home or Simple File Sharing force network access to shares through
the Guest account. This should not prevent one machine from seeing the
other machine on the network.

My bets are on a firewall blocking the protocol. If you are using
nothing more than Windows Firewall, then go to the control panel,
Windows Firewall, and on the "Exceptions" tab, make sure "File and
Printer Sharing" is checked.

YES FORGTO TO MENTION ON THE XP HOME PC THERE IS NORTON INTERNET SECURITY.
THIS HAS BEEN SET TO ALLOW ALL PC ON THE LAN AND I HAVE PUT A RULE WHICH
ALLOWAS ALL TRAFFIC BETWEEN PC ON LAN. THIS VERSION OF NORTON IS NOT
PARTICULARY EASY TO CONFIGURE (MADE TO LEAVE IT ALONE) ONE WOULD THINK THIS
IS SUFFICIENT TO REMOVE FIREWALL BLOCKING? WHAT DO YOU THINK?

HTH,
John


.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: Mapping to WIndows XP from 2000
    ... ip but can ping others using ip but names, ... >>No matter how i try i simply cannot get my windows 2000 ... XP (Home / Pro)? ... File and Printer Sharing ...
    (microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web)
  • Re: Mapping to WIndows XP from 2000
    ... >windows xp workstation. ... Maybe what version of Windows XP (Home / Pro)? ... Ping itself by ip address. ... For XP Home, OR for XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the ...
    (microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web)
  • Remote computer could not be found
    ... I recently did an upgrade on a desktop from Windows 2000 Pro to Windows XP ... It can also ping the SBS 2003 by IP address or name. ... can't connect to the desktop from the server console by Terminal Services ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.networking)
  • Cant connect from Win 98
    ... at home I have Windows XP Pro and Windows 98 SE. ... 2K Pro laptop), but neither of the other machines can access Win XP. ... can't even ping XP, although XP can ping them and they can ping each other. ... I recently installed XP SP2 ...
    (microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web)
  • Re: Networking Issue
    ... It's a long shot given the symptoms but what does node type show in ipconfig ... MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User ... nslookup and verify that its the correct name server. ... we are unable to Ping this ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.general)