Re: can't access wired lan at same time as wifi link

My work week is usually sunday-thursday hense my slow reply

At present I don't have a forced persistant route

My route print 5 min ago:
===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 11 2f 16 c8 79 ...... Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet
NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x3 ...00 0a 3a 62 e6 00 ...... Bluetooth LAN Access Server Driver - Packet
Scheduler Miniport
0x10005 ...00 08 a1 a1 2b 2b ...... RT73 USB Wireless LAN Card - Packet
Scheduler Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.101 192.168.0.61 30
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
169.254.0.0 255.255.0.0 169.254.129.239 169.254.129.239 40
169.254.129.239 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 40
169.254.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.129.239 169.254.129.239 40
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.61 192.168.0.61 30
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.64 192.168.0.64 25
192.168.0.61 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 30
192.168.0.64 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 25
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.61 192.168.0.61 30
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.64 192.168.0.64 25
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 169.254.129.239 169.254.129.239 40
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.61 192.168.0.61 30
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.64 192.168.0.64 25
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.129.239 169.254.129.239 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.61 192.168.0.61 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.64 192.168.0.64 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.101
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None

my ipconfig 5 min ago

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.61
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.101

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.129.239
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.64
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :



"Bisirat Amanuel" wrote:

Well, everything seems good. Your network should work, although, it might
have a problem is both networks have the same subnet. If your wireless is
192.168.0.x, the other one needs to be 192.168.1.x or something different.
If both interfaces can access a gateway called 192.168.0.101 - the computer
will have a hard time picking the right one (someone correct me if i'm
wrong).

Do ipconfig on command prompt and give me the data, also give me the route
print again. Thanks.


"Krazy Darcy" <KrazyDarcy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Apologies for slow responce .I had to go to my day job today.

I tried the value that worked for you and I got "the route addition
failed:
either the interface index is wrong or the gateway does not lie on the
same
network as the interface. check the IP address table for the machine.

192.168.0.101 is the IP of the machine on our 10Mb/s wired ethernet Lan
that
handles our internet connection via proxy software.

I have just removed the persistant link and then done route print
rp1-4-2007.txt to get a text file of the output of route print.

===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 11 2f 16 c8 79 ...... Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet
NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x3 ...00 0a 3a 62 e6 00 ...... Bluetooth LAN Access Server Driver -
Packet
Scheduler Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface
Metric
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
169.254.0.0 255.255.0.0 169.254.129.239 169.254.129.239 40
169.254.129.239 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 40
169.254.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.129.239 169.254.129.239 40
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.61 192.168.0.61 30
192.168.0.61 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 30
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.61 192.168.0.61 30
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 169.254.129.239 169.254.129.239 40
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.61 192.168.0.61 30
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.129.239 169.254.129.239 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.61 192.168.0.61 1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None

That was after removing the persistant route

And with the persistant route:
route -p add 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.101 metric 1

===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 11 2f 16 c8 79 ...... Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet
NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport
0x3 ...00 0a 3a 62 e6 00 ...... Bluetooth LAN Access Server Driver -
Packet
Scheduler Miniport
0x10005 ...80 00 60 0f e8 00 ...... Windows Mobile-based Device #4
0x20006 ...00 08 a1 a1 2b 2b ...... RT73 USB Wireless LAN Card - Packet
Scheduler Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface
Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.101 192.168.0.61 1
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
169.254.0.0 255.255.0.0 169.254.129.239 169.254.129.239 40
169.254.2.0 255.255.255.0 169.254.2.2 169.254.2.2 30
169.254.2.2 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 30
169.254.129.239 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 40
169.254.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.2.2 169.254.2.2 30
169.254.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.129.239 169.254.129.239 40
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.61 192.168.0.61 30
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.64 192.168.0.64 50
192.168.0.61 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 30
192.168.0.64 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 50
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.61 192.168.0.61 30
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.64 192.168.0.64 50
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 169.254.2.2 169.254.2.2 30
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 169.254.129.239 169.254.129.239 40
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.61 192.168.0.61 30
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.64 192.168.0.64 50
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.2.2 169.254.2.2 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.129.239 169.254.129.239 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.61 192.168.0.61 1
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.64 192.168.0.64 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.101
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
Network Address Netmask Gateway Address Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.101 1




"Bisirat Amanuel" wrote:

I have recreated your problem and it works on my computer. All I had to
do
was
route add 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0 172.17.104.1

the -p just makes it stay after reboot. Default gateway changed from
192.168.0.1 to 172.17.104.1 and I could get back online again.




"Krazy Darcy" <KrazyDarcy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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yes it is there under persistant routes
the ip address i used is also under default gateway.

apologies for slow responce - i looked at the article you posted the
link
for and the instructions caused the ling between laptop and desktop to
establish but not exchange data.

"Bisirat Amanuel" wrote:

when you run "route print" it should show you the persistent route you
added. Is it there?


"Krazy Darcy" <KrazyDarcy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I tried it without brackets.

I can now from my desktop browse the household wired lan while the
laptop
is
connected to the desktop via wifi. The desktop still can't access
the
household shared internet connection though while the wifi usb
dongle
is
connected though.

I have the [# hops] at 1 is this correct?
the internet goes:
xp home desktop > hub > win98 "proxy box" > adsl modem

"Bisirat Amanuel" wrote:

My Bad I forgot to mention to leave out the brackets.

"Krazy Darcy" <KrazyDarcy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
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Start>run>cmd to get command prompt
then I typed in
route -p add 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0 [192.168.0.101] metric [1]

The reply was
route: bad gateway address [192.168.0.101]



"Bisirat Amanuel" wrote:

run this on command prompt:
route -p add 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0 [LAN gateway IP] metric [#
hops]

of course replace the brackets with correct data. Simply run
route
on
command prompt to get a hint of how it works.

"Krazy Darcy" <KrazyDarcy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
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You are right on our lan being a 10Mbps variety.


As soon as I disconnected the link and unplugged the wifi usb
dongle,
Ie
could load a page. How do I manually force the route (dummies
guide
please)


"Bisirat Amanuel" wrote:

The routing information is setup so that it will take the
shortest
path.
So
if your wifi connection runs faster than your Lan then your
computer
will
start using the wifi connection as a gateway. I'm guessing
your
lan
is
10
Mbps while your wifi is 54 Mbps. This will help:
https://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/cableguy/cg0903.mspx

"Krazy Darcy" <KrazyDarcy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
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I have a new laptop running x home. I have a desktop
running
xp
home
that
is
on the household peer-peer wired lan.

When I establish a wifi (802.11b/g) link between the
desktop
and
laptop
I
can brows the desktop shared folders from the laptop. But
at
the
same
time
my desktop can't acess the household shared internet
connection
or
lan
(which
is proxy plus running on a win98 box). When I drop the
wireless
connection
my xp desktop can access the internet connection and lan
again.

Why is this?

The laptop is also set up to use a ethernet cable as well.
Also while I can access files/subfolders within a
predefined
"bluetooth"
folder on my desktop from my laptop, I can't use bluetooth
to
access
internet
from the laptop. bluetooth does not affect network
connections
on
the
desktop


















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