Re: Cannot simultaneously share DSL connection



"Nancy" wrote:



"Nancy" <longshadows@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:30111CD4-64C9-4E1D-BF85-4CDD0FC0A09C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
PROBLEM: We cannot simultaneously share a DSL internet connection on our
home network.

We have 2 computers in a home network connected with a router. Each
computer can see files on the other computer. The newer computer also
prints
through the other computer, because the printer has an old-style plug.
Each
computer separately can connect to our DSL server and access the internet
and
email. However, we can never connect simultaneously. Neither computer
can
access the internet or email while the other computer is connected.

When Computer 1 is connected to the internet and Computer 2 attempts to
access a webage, Computer 2 gets a message that says "Internet Explorer
cannot display the webpage." When Computer 2 is connected and Computer 1
attempt to access a webpage, it gets the message, "The page cannot be
displayed."
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HARDWARE & SOFTWARE

Computer 1: Dianne
HP Pavilion a1630n, running Windows XP, Media Center Edition, Version
2002,
SP2
Newest computer, purchased 10/2006. When the problem first began, we had
a
different computer. Getting a new computer made no difference in what
happens when we try to share the internet connection.

Computer 2: Nancy
HP Pavilion 504n, running Windows XP, Home Edition, Version 2002, SP2

Anti-virus and firewall: PC-Cillin Internet Security 2006 (by Trend
Micro)
on both computers. Windows firewall is turned off at the Windows Firewall
screen.

DSL Modem: Westell C90/610014-06 provided by ISP

Router: Linksys BEFSR41 vers 4.1
________________________________________________________________

HISTORY OF THE PROBLEM:
This problem began last summer when we switched from a dial-up ISP to DSL.
With the previous dial-up connection, we had used a Linksys 5-port
workgroup
hub to connect our network. One computer connected to the internet as
host
and the other computer was able to simultaneously access the internet.
This
worked fine for several years. The hub did not work with DSL. Both our
new
ISP and Linksys told us we would need a router in order to have internet
sharing on a DSL connection. So we purchased and installed the router.

Several things happened at about the same time as the change to DSL.
Computer 2 was finally upgraded to SP2 (from no service packs) at that
time.
Also, PC-Cillin had just been updated to the 2006 version on both
computers.

WHAT WE'VE TRIED:
We started with Linksys, because our first sign of a problem was the
router
setup disk. It goes to step 6, checking the router's status, then it
hangs
up on "checking your computer settings." It asks for a password, then goes
back to "checking your computer settings," then asks for the password
again,
and on and on in an infinite loop. We spent long hours exchanging emails
and
in live chats with Linksys support. Linksys support had us download
software
to reconfigure the router. The software could not "find" the router, even
though the computer was using it to connect to the internet. Next,
support
sent instructions to manually configure the router. We can't get past the
first step, which is to enter the router's IP address 192.168.1.1. That
always results in a "page not found" error. Support suggested hard resets
and clearing browser settings before the configuration, but 192.168.1.1
still
cannot find the router. Finally, Linksys support decided the router must
be
defective. We exchanged the router. The new one does exactly the same as
the old. We have not recontacted Linksys because they don't seem to have
a
solution to offer if typing in the IP address gets no response.

Initially, we could not make our home network work at all. We have
gradually worked through various problems, such as with the registry, and
have gotten the network to the point where everything is shared except the
internet connection.

We suspected that the anti-virus software could be causing the problem, so
we did the scary experiment of turning it off on both computers and
attempting to access the internet. There was no difference. PC-Cillin's
firewall setup screen has an option for "home network" profile, and that
is
what we use. We called PC-Cillin, and they said that if turning off the
software doesn't eliminate the problem, then their firewall is not the
cause.

We've run the Network Connection Wizard a zillion times on both computers.
We use the second option, connecting to the internet through a residential
gateway or another computer (although we've tried the first option too).
Running the wizard always turns on Windows Firewall, so we've learned to
turn
it off again after running the wizard.

Computer 2 initially had several anti-spyware programs loaded on it.
Those
have been uninstalled, in the hope that they were somehow setting up a
firewall. No difference.

Since we've been banging our heads against this brick wall periodically
for
months (we stop when it gets too bloody, then try again) we may have
forgotten what else we have tried unsuccessfully.

We don't know what else to try. Can anyone help, please?
________________________________________________________

DIAGNOSTICS
Below are IPConfig and CDiag for each computer. We don't know how to
begin
to analyze this information.

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Dianne
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : myhome.westell.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : myhome.westell.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking
Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F3-6E-7A-41
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 25, 2007
7:36:35 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, January 26, 2007
7:36:35
AM

PPP adapter centurytel:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 72.160.99.13
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 72.160.99.13
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 64.91.105.250
209.206.160.253
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

CDiagnosis V1.40
Start diagnosis for DIANNE
Full Targets Nancy 192.168.1.100 127.0.0.1
Ping Targets www.yahoo.com 66.94.230.32 192.168.1.1

Over All Analysis

Enumerate Shares

Share name Resource Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
print$ C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers
Printer Drivers

ADMIN$ C:\WINDOWS Remote Admin

C$ C:\ Default share

IPC$ Remote IPC

D$ D:\ Default share

Documents and Settings
C:\Documents and Settings
Historical E-mail FIle
C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My
Documents\Historical E-mail FIle
Miscellaneous photos
C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\My
Pictures\Miscellaneous photos
My Documents C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents
My Music -Ds C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Administrator\My Documents\My
Music
SharedDocs C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\ALL USERS\DOCUMENTS

The command completed successfully.

Adhoc Browser View

Server Name Remark
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
\\DIANNE Dianne's computer

\\NANCY Nancy's computer

The command completed successfully.

Full Targets Analysis Nancy 192.168.1.100 127.0.0.1

Target Nancy

"DIANNE ping Nancy"

Pinging Nancy [192.168.1.101] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.101: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.101:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

"DIANNE net view Nancy"

Shared resources at Nancy

Nancy's computer

Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Copy place Disk
Dianne's Pictures Disk
Documents and Settings Disk
E Disk
Extra - Dianne's backups Disk
HPDeskJet Print HP DeskJet 500
My Documents Disk
Printer Print Quicken PDF Printer
SharedDocs Disk
Utility Disk
WordPerfect Disk
The command completed successfully.

Target 192.168.1.100

"DIANNE ping 192.168.1.100"

Pinging 192.168.1.100 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.1.100: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.100: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.100: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.1.100: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.100:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

"DIANNE net view 192.168.1.100"

Shared resources at 192.168.1.100

Dianne's computer

Share name Type Used as Comment
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Documents and Settings Disk
Historical E-mail FIle Disk
Miscellaneous photos Disk
My Documents Disk
My Music -Ds Disk
SharedDocs Disk
The command completed successfully.

Target 127.0.0.1

"DIANNE ping 127.0.0.1"

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

Hi
Did you typed the ID and PW of the Internet provider (ISP) into the WAN DSL
menu of the Linksys, and uninstalled the ISP's PPPOE software dron the

Well, how your settings of connecting to the Internet?.
Modem <<--- Router <<---- Computer/Laptop/PC/ Printer
Try to start from Default settings on the Router, How?.
Try to reset the Router to manufacturer settings, there is a reset Hole
button, with a pen or paper pen you can press it IN for about 30 Seconds Then
Power it down.
Get the software came with the router and start up the Wizard to setup the
connection with one machine first, preferably the one was connecting to the
Modem.
When you setup the wizard and set you security by implementing (WEP, WPA)
whichever one you will go for , best to use WPA to secure your network.
Here is a step-by-step to setup the Linksys router:
Get you username,password and the VCI which used by your ISP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/setup/wireless.mspx
Another to be sure the Modem still working, try to connect to the Modem
direct and see if you will get access!.

Here is step-by-step setting belkin (the same on all router nearly):
Set up wizard:
Wizard > 1. Connection Type
The following information are provided by your ISP.
( ) PPPOE
( ) PPPOA
( ) Disable

Select the appropriate one and click
[ Next ]
-------
Wizard > 2.Parameter Setting
The following Info are usually provided by your ISP.
Username: [ ]
Password: [ ]
Retype: [
]
VPI/VCI: [ ] / [ ]


Click Apply and you will get Configuration Parameters recheck them and click
Apply to apply.

--------
On the Router Home page click on the following to make changes:
LAN Settings
IP Address > [192]. [168].[2].[1]
More Info
______________________________
Subnet Mask > 255.255.255.0
_____________________________
DHCP server > (*) ON ( ) OFF

IP Pool startting Addres> [192].[168].[2].[2]
IP Pool Ending Address > [192].[168].[2].[100]

________
Lease leave as is
___________
Doamin [ Belkin ]

Click on Internet WAN, then on Connection Type:
WAN > Connection Type
Select your connection type:
( ) PPPoE
( ) PPPoA
( ) Disable IS (Bridge mode.....)
( ) Multiple Protocol Over
Make your selection and click Next.

WAN > Connection Type> Whichever your selection was

User Name>
Password>
Retype>
IP assigned by ISP> [Yes ▼]
IP Address> 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask> 0.0.0.0
VPI/VCI [ 0]/ [ ] these according to your location and your ISP
Encapsulation> [ LLC ▼]
Dial On Dimand [√]
Idle Time (minute)> [0] or leave Blank

Click Apply changes
-----------------------
WAN > DNS

[√] Automatic from ISP

DNS address > [0].[0].[0].[0]
Secondary DNS Address> [0].[0].[0].[0]

Click Apply changes
---------------------------
Wireless Option:
Wireless > Channel and SSID
To make changes to the wireless............................................
changes to save the settings

Wireless Channel> [6 ▼]
SSID > [type your Network name give a unique name] write
this down on a piece of paper inseated of the default one like belkin54g.
ESSID Broadcast ( ) Enable (*) Disable select the disable Radio
button
Wireless Mode > [ (11b + 11g) ▼]
Transmission Rate> [Automatic ▼]
g Nitro> ( ) Enable ( ) Disable

The above step is the most sensitive you need to set it Right to get your
Network secure from your neighborhood and from the Internet (WWW)


Wireless > Security > WPA
WPA > [ WPA-PSK (no server) ▼]
Encryption technique TKIP
Pre-shared Key (PSK) [ Typea momerable sentence you only can guess ]


[√ ] obscure PSK check this to Hash your Password.
Click Apply changes.
-----------------
Click Firewall;
Firewall>
blah............................blah.................................................
Firewall Enable / Disable (*) Enable ( ) Disable
Click Apply Changes
Now you are done, but if you would like to Implement a security Plan you can
use IP filtering, MAC filtering. application access to the internet to block
the Outer world from accessing your Network connection.

HTH.
Let us know.
Regards,
nass
.